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    WBD
    Earnings call· Dec 2024(Q4 FY24)

    Warner Bros. Discovery, Inc. WBD

    Feb 27, 2025 Source

    Executive summary

    Warner Bros. Discovery Q4 FY24 — Strong DTC Growth and Strategic Restructuring

    Warner Bros. Discovery concluded Q4 FY24 with significant progress in its strategic transformation, driven by robust global direct-to-consumer subscriber growth and substantial EBITDA improvement. The company implemented a new corporate structure to enhance strategic flexibility and unlock shareholder value, while navigating linear TV headwinds through successful affiliate renewals and a disciplined approach to sports rights. Management remains focused on long-term asset value creation and continued cost efficiency.

    Highlights

    4

    • Direct-to-consumer business ended 2024 with 117 million subscribers, adding 6.5 million in Q4 and nearly 20 million in less than a year.

    • Direct-to-consumer business contributed almost $700 million in EBITDA, a $3 billion improvement in just 2 years.

    • Struck multiyear renewal agreements with 5 of 6 largest pay-TV providers in America, securing overall rate increases and stability for linear business.

    • International affiliate renewals are already seeing positive net revenue impact, growing across the portfolio.

    Concerns

    4

    • Linear network business continues to face challenges, with weaker ad sales in Q4 than hoped for.

    • Rate increases in domestic affiliate business will be slightly slower, more in the low single digits versus mid-single-digit rates previously.

    • Increased sports expense in 2025 due to NBA rights, impacting profitability before improving in 2026.

    • Near-term ARPU deterioration expected due to international expansion, ad-lite offerings, and hard bundle deals.

    Guidance & targets

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    CategoryTargetConfidence
    Total DTC Subscribers
    at least 150 million
    high materiality
    High
    Direct-to-Consumer EBITDA
    nearly double
    high materiality
    High
    Studios EBITDA
    $3 billion or more
    high materiality
    Medium
    Sports expense reduction
    several hundred millions of dollars
    medium materiality
    High
    Net leverage target
    2.5 to 3x
    high materiality
    High
    Direct-to-Consumer EBITDA margin
    20%
    high materiality
    High

    Segment performance

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    SegmentRevenueYoYQoQMargin
    Direct-to-Consumer
    Ended 2024 with 117 million subscribers globally, adding 6.5 million in Q4 and nearly 20 million in less than a year. Contributed almost $700 million in EBITDA, a $3 billion improvement in 2 years. Max is launching internationally in 2024 in key markets.
    Subscribers: 117 million (end of 2024)Q4 Net Adds: 6.5 millionLess than a year Net Adds: nearly 20 million
    		———$700 million EBITDA
    Networks (Domestic Affiliate Business)
    Achieved close to 6% rate increases in Q4 in domestic affiliate business. New deals will have slightly slower rate increases (low single-digit vs. mid-single-digit).
    		—close to 6% rate increases in Q4——
    Networks (International Affiliate Business)
    Seeing positive net revenue impact from affiliate renewals across the international footprint, growing in revenues.
    		up in revenues———

    Operational metrics

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    Direct-to-Consumer EBITDA improvement
    $3 billion
    2 years

    Improvement in direct-to-consumer EBITDA over the past two years.

    Debt paid down
    $19 billion
    since closing the transaction

    Amount of debt paid down since the transaction close, expected by end of current quarter.

    Domestic affiliate rate increases
    close to 6%
    Q4

    Rate increases in the domestic affiliate business in Q4.

    Domestic affiliate rate increases (new deals)
    low single digitversus mid-single-digit rate
    future

    Expected rate increases for new domestic affiliate deals, slower than prior.

    Working capital
    strong
    2025

    Expected working capital performance in 2025.

    CapEx expansion
    a little more
    2025

    Expected increase in CapEx for production footprint expansion, predominantly in Leavesden.

    Restructuring expenses
    continue to come down
    2025

    Expected trend for restructuring expenses in 2025.

    Ad sales market signals
    mild positive signals
    Q1

    Mild positive signals from the ad market going into Q1, with less upfront cancellations and moderately up scatter CPMs.

    International linear market trends
    much better than domestically
    current

    Trends in the international linear market are more moderate than domestic, though with geopolitical uncertainty.

    ARPU deterioration
    some deterioration
    near term

    Expected near-term ARPU deterioration due to international expansion, ad-lite offerings, and hard bundle deals.

    Sports expense (2025 impact)
    —
    2025

    Incremental expense in 2025 due to NBA rights (half season plus new rights cost), impacting profitability.

    CNN digital users
    over 150 million
    monthly

    Number of people visiting CNN digital every month.

    Industry KPIs

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    MetricValueDetails
    ARPU armsome deterioration
    Paid members subscribers117 millionsubscribers
    Content spend title performanceSuperman

    Product announcements

    3
    ProductTypeDetails
    Maxexpansion
    Superman (film)launch
    Harry Potter (franchise)roadmap

    Deals & partnerships

    2
    5 of the 6 largest pay-TV providers in AmericaMultiyear renewal agreements for linear channels.multiyear

    Renewed multiyear agreements with major pay-TV providers, many ahead of schedule, securing rate increases and stability for the linear business.

    Globo (Brazil), Televisa (Mexico), various European playersBundling strategy with local players for D2C.

    Collaborating with regional and local players internationally (e.g., Globo in Brazil, Televisa in Mexico) on bundling strategies for D2C, leading to positive net revenue impact.

    Risks & headwinds

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    Linear television headwindsongoing

    continues to face challenges

    Mitigation: Successful multiyear affiliate renewals with rate increases, strategic flexibility from corporate restructuring.

    Weaker ad sales in Q4Q4 FY24

    weaker ad sales result in Q4 than what we had hoped for

    Mitigation: Mild positive signals in Q1 ad market (less upfront cancellations, moderately up scatter CPMs), content initiatives, and efficient utilization of library content.

    Slower domestic affiliate rate increasesfuture

    slightly slower, more in the low single digit versus mid-single-digit rate

    Mitigation: Creating flexibility and sustainability for the ecosystem through new deals, international success with D2C bundles.

    Increased sports expense in 20252025

    some incremental expense in 2025

    Mitigation: Significant expense reduction ("several hundred millions of dollars") expected in 2026 as NBA rights impact lessens. Disciplined and opportunistic approach to sports rights.

    Near-term ARPU deteriorationnext 12-18 months

    some deterioration in the ARPU in the near term

    Mitigation: Managing business smartly by balancing subscriber acquisition cost with lifetime value, confident in medium to long-term ARPU growth.

    Geopolitical uncertainty in international linear marketcurrent

    some uncertainty there as well

    Mitigation: International linear market trends are "much better than domestically" despite uncertainty.

    What to watch in Q1 FY25

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    Corporate Restructuring Progress

    next few weeks
    Currentproject work underway to manage and implement the financial aspects
    Targetwrap that up really within the next few weeks

    Why it matters

    The completion of the financial aspects of the reorganization is crucial for enhancing strategic flexibility and unlocking shareholder value, with incremental guidance expected.

    So we're still working through that with a lot of focus, and we're making great progress. And as I said -- as we said in the letter, we're hoping to wrap that up really within the next few weeks.

    Q&A highlights

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    Update on the January 1 restructuring and potential longer-term transformative actions. Clarify comments on near-term linear pressure from DTC and packaging flexibility, and if consolidated growth is expected in '25.

    Gunnar detailed the ongoing project work for the restructuring and plans for incremental guidance on global linear networks and streaming/Studios sub-consolidation by Q1 earnings. David emphasized the restructuring creates visibility and strategic flexibility. Gunnar noted the success of affiliate renewals, securing rate growth, but domestic rate increases will be slightly slower (low single-digit). International affiliate renewals are already showing positive net revenue impact by bundling D2C.

    “The new structure will enhance our strategic flexibility and also create potential opportunities to unlock additional shareholder value, which we're focused on.”

    asked by Jessica Reif Cohen · answered by David Zaslav

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    Detailed Narrative

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    Strategic Vision and Global Streaming Growth

    Warner Bros. Discovery's strategic vision, formed 2.5 years ago, aimed to combine Discovery's global media presence with Warner Bros. and HBO's iconic IP. This has resulted in a global direct-to-consumer business with 117 million subscribers by the end of 2024, adding 6.5 million in Q4 and nearly 20 million in less than a year. Max is positioned as one of the few global and profitable streaming services, with international launches planned for key markets like the U.K., Italy, Germany, and Australia in the coming years.

    02

    Corporate Restructuring and Strategic Flexibility

    The company implemented a new corporate structure effective January 1, 2025, aimed at providing better visibility into the strength of its streaming and Studios businesses. This reorganization is expected to enhance strategic flexibility and create potential opportunities to unlock additional shareholder value, particularly in response to ongoing industry disruption🌐. Management anticipates providing incremental guidance on global linear networks and streaming/Studios sub-consolidation with Q1 earnings.

    03

    Linear Networks Resilience and International Success

    Despite headwinds in linear television, WBD secured multiyear renewal agreements with 5 of the 6 largest pay-TV providers in the U.S., many ahead of schedule and all with overall rate increases. While domestic rate increases will be slightly slower (low single-digit vs. mid-single-digit), international affiliate renewals are already yielding positive net revenue impact, demonstrating successful cooperation with partners on D2C bundles.

    04

    Studio Reinvigoration and Financial Outlook

    Management is focused on restoring the Studios to industry leadership and achieving $3 billion or more in EBITDA. The Warner Bros. Television business is showing strong growth, and the film slate, including upcoming releases like "Superman" in July, is expected to drive improved financial performance. Changes in managing franchises and driving ancillary revenues (consumer products, experiences) are expected to contribute to margin opportunities.

    05

    Disciplined Sports and News Strategy

    WBD is experimenting with various models for sports and news distribution on Max, including moving sports and news out of the ad-lite tier in the U.S. and offering different packages internationally. The company emphasizes a disciplined, opportunistic approach to sports rights, prioritizing content quality and return on investment over simply acquiring more rights. CNN's digital business is also being developed as a separate subscription line.

    06

    Free Cash Flow and Deleveraging Focus

    Free cash flow remains a top financial priority, with the company having paid down $19 billion of debt since the transaction close. Management aims for a long-term net leverage target of 2.5x to 3x. Working capital is expected to remain strong in 2025, and while content investments will continue to grow, they will be balanced with improved ROI. CapEx is expected to increase slightly for production footprint expansion.

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