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    Jindal Saw Q2 FY25 earnings call

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    Capital Goods·21 Oct 2024
    Management Summary

    Jindal Saw delivered a stable performance in Q2 FY25, maintaining its improved margin profile of 18-19% despite slight pressure from higher steel prices. The company achieved significant deleveraging, reducing consolidated debt by nearly ₹900 crores, and is now focused on strategic capacity expansions in Nashik and Mundra. Management remains bullish on domestic demand from water and energy sectors while actively pursuing high-margin export opportunities in the MENA and U.S. markets.

    Highlights

    8
    • Standalone Revenue reached ₹4,790 crores, up 3.9% YoY and 8.4% QoQ

    • EBITDA Margin stabilized in the 18-19% range, significantly higher than the historical 12-14% range

    • Consolidated debt reduced by ₹890 crores during the quarter to ₹4,585 crores

    • Order book remains robust at $1.61 billion, representing 1.74 million tonnes of volume

    • Planned capex of ~₹700-750 crores for debottlenecking and capacity expansion across three major sites

    • Standalone PAT grew 35.9% YoY to ₹477 crores

    • Export revenue mix dropped to 12% but management targets a return to the 20-25% 'sweet spot'

    • Monetized rail wagon business (100% equity deal) to focus on core pipe business

    Concerns

    1
    • Geopolitical Instability in Middle East

    What Changed1

    vs Q3 FY25

    Guidance items4 → 5 (+1)

    Key financials

    Single quarter

    06 metrics
    1. 01Revenue₹4,790 Cr+3.9%YoY
    2. 02EBITDA₹875 Cr+16.5%YoY
    3. 03PAT₹477 Cr+35.9%YoY
    4. 04Consolidated Debt₹4,585 Cr-16.3%QoQ
    5. 05Order Book Value$1.61B-1.8%QoQ

    Segment breakdown

    Seamless Pipes (Nashik)
    4 lakh tons Target Capacity50% Capacity Growth
    DI Pipes (Haresamudram)
    3 lakh tons Target Capacity
    Pellets
    100% Utilization
    List

    Guidance & targets

    5
    CategoryTargetPriority
    Margin
    EBITDA Margin
    18-19%
    High
    Capex
    Mundra Coke Oven Battery
    ₹300-350 crores
    High
    Capex
    Nashik Plant Expansion
    ₹200 crores
    High
    Capex
    Haresamudram DI Expansion
    ₹200 crores
    High
    Revenue
    Export Revenue Mix
    20-25%
    Medium

    Risks & concerns

    4
    RiskSeverity

    Geopolitical Instability in Middle East

    Potential disruption in transportation channels through the Middle East (Israel-Iran/Yemen) could impact logistics and costs.Management acknowledged

    high

    Raw Material Price Volatility

    Higher steel prices marginally impacted EBITDA percentages this quarter; management is using long-term purchase agreements to hedge.Both acknowledged

    medium

    Plateauing of Jal Jeevan Mission

    While the central mission is plateauing, state-level water grid projects and multilateral funding are compensating for the demand.Management downplayed

    low

    Areas of Evasion(1)

    • Specific details on the exact timing of U.S. market entry were slightly vague due to ongoing vendor qualifications.

    Q&A highlights

    3

    “Once this happens, then the capacity of Nashik plant in terms of pipes and tubes... would be in the vicinity of 3.5 to 4 lakh tons... which will be a 40% to 50% jump of the existing capacity.”

    Provides specific growth targets for the seamless pipe segment and clarifies the scale of upcoming investments.

    asked by Ajay Sharma, Maybank

    2 min read5 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    Revenue and Margin Trajectory

    Standalone revenue for Q2 FY25 reached ₹4,790 crores, which management describes as a 'stable high plateau' following several quarters of rapid growth. EBITDA margins have structurally shifted from a historical 12-14% range to a robust 18-19% range, driven by improved capacity utilization and a strategic shift toward high-value-add products. Despite a marginal dip in percentage terms due to higher steel prices, management expects to maintain this 18-19% margin profile for the foreseeable future.

    02

    Significant Deleveraging and Financial Health

    The company achieved a substantial reduction in debt, with consolidated total debt falling from ₹5,475 crores in the June quarter to ₹4,585 crores in September. Standalone total debt stands at ₹3,411 crores, and management noted that a large tranche of term loans was repaid after the quarter end, which will further reduce debt in Q3. This deleveraging is supported by the completion of high-working-capital export orders and the monetization of the rail wagon business.

    03

    Strategic Capacity Expansion and Debottlenecking

    Jindal Saw is undertaking approximately ₹700-750 crores in capex over the next 2-3 years. Key projects include a ₹200 crore investment at the Nashik plant to increase seamless pipe capacity by 40-50% (to 3.5-4 lakh tons) and a ₹300-350 crore investment in a new, environment-friendly vertical push-based coke oven battery in Mundra. Additionally, ₹200 crores is allocated for DI pipe capacity expansion at Haresamudram to reach 3 lakh tons, positioning the company as a top producer in South and West India.

    04

    Order Book Dynamics and Export Strategy

    The order book remains healthy at $1.61 billion, with tonnage increasing to 17.38 lakh tons from 16.17 lakh tons sequentially. While the export mix fell to 12% this quarter due to the timing of📎 project completions, management aims to return to a 20-25% mix. The company is focusing on the MENA region for water projects and is in the process of qualifying for the U.S. market with high-grade seamless and stainless products to avoid anti-dumping impacts.

    05

    Sectoral Demand Outlook

    Demand in the water segment remains stable as state-level water grids and multilateral funding compensate for a plateau in the Jal Jeevan Mission. The oil and gas sector is robust, with deep-sea drilling on India's East Coast driving demand for high-grade pipes and premium connections. The company's joint venture with Hunting for premium threading is now fully operational and profitable, contributing to the bottom line in its first full year of operation.

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