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    C.E. Info Systems Limited

    MAPMYINDIA
    Information Technology·29 Jan 2025
    Management Summary

    C.E. Info System reported a strong Q3 FY25 with revenue growing 25% YoY to ₹115 crores, driven by a 39% surge in the C&E segment. EBITDA stood at ₹42 crores with a 36% margin, a slight dip from the previous year. The company operationalized its JV with Hyundai Autoever in Indonesia and remains confident in achieving its 25% FY25 revenue growth target, despite delays in some IoT-led projects and lower margins from government business.

    Highlights

    6
    • Q3 FY25 revenue grew 25% YoY to ₹115 crores.

    • 9M FY25 revenue grew 17% YoY to ₹320 crores.

    • Q3 FY25 EBITDA was ₹42 crores with a 36% margin.

    • C&E segment revenue surged 39% YoY to ₹65 crores in Q3 FY25.

    • Successful operationalization of the joint venture with Hyundai Autoever in Indonesia.

    • Subscription services grew 31% YoY.

    Concerns

    3
    • Q3 FY25 EBITDA margin declined to 36% from 39% in Q3 FY24.

    • IoT-led business growth was only 4% YoY in Q3 FY25 due to delays in some anticipated businesses.

    • Hardware sales did not pick up this quarter due to delayed large projects, impacting overall growth.

    What Changed2

    vs Q4 FY25

    Risks discussed4 → 2 (-2)Q&A highlights6 → 8 (+2)
    Key financials

    Metrics

    7

    Periods

    2

    Headline

    3
    • Revenue
      ₹115 Cr
      YoY+25%
    • EBITDA
      ₹42 Cr
    • EBITDA Margin
      36%
      YoY-3%

    9M FY25

    4
    • Revenue
      ₹320 Cr
      YoY+17%
    • EBITDA
      ₹122 Cr
    • EBITDA Margin
      38%
      YoY-4%
    • PAT
      ₹99 Cr
      YoY+3.1%

    Segment breakdown

    • Consumer Tech and Enterprise (C&E)₹65 Cr57.0%
    • Automotive and Mobility (A&M)₹49 Cr43.0%
    Donut· Share of Revenue

    Order Book

    medium confidence

    Total Value

    ₹ 1,370 crores

    as of 2024-03-31

    quantified

    Inflow this qtr

    ₹ 400 crores

    Execution

    Hyundai contract for 5 years

    Cancellations / Deferrals

    • deferred:Delays in some anticipated IoT-led businesses and large projects expected this quarter, postponing revenue to future quarters.

    "The exact order book will be disclosed on March 31, 2025, and is expected to be better than last year's end. Some large projects expected this quarter were delayed to future quarters."

    Source:
    Q&A

    Capital allocation

    1
    high confidence
    CategoryHeadline
    M&A

    Hyundai Autoever (Indonesia)

    joint venture · Other

    Guidance & targets

    5
    CategoryTargetPriority
    Overall Company
    Revenue Growth
    0.25
    High
    Overall Company
    Revenue
    1000
    High
    Segment Mix
    Government Projects Revenue Share
    less than 0.20
    Medium
    IoT-led Business
    Delayed Business Materialization
    Materialize
    Medium
    Joint Venture
    Hyundai/Kia JV Revenue Start
    Revenue generation
    Medium

    What to watch in Q4 FY25

    5

    FY25 Revenue Growth Achievement

    next quarter (Q4 FY25 results)
    Current17% YoY for 9M FY25
    Target25% YoY for full FY25

    Why it matters

    To verify management's confidence in achieving the full-year revenue growth target despite slower growth in the first nine months.

    Yes, we still believe strongly that we will be able to attain the 25% growth for the whole year.

    Risks & concerns

    2
    RiskSeverity

    Margin compression from government projects

    Government projects have lower margins compared to corporate and automotive sectors, which can draw down the overall company margin, though they are strategically important.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Delays in IoT-led business materialization

    Some anticipated IoT-led businesses and large projects were delayed this quarter, impacting hardware sales and overall growth, but are expected to materialize in the next financial year.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Q&A highlights

    8

    “The outsourcing question I can address because that's the only item in the presentation where you will see quite a big jump in our expenses. And that relates to the corresponding government projects which is part of the revenue. We incur outsourcing expenses when certain projects need to be scaled up rapidly within a short timeframe, requiring external resources.”

    Clarifies that increased outsourcing expenses are directly tied to revenue from government projects, indicating it's not a standalone cost issue but a scaling mechanism.

    asked by Shobhit Singhal

    2 min read6 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    Q3 FY25 Financial Performance Overview

    C.E. Info System reported a Q3 FY25 revenue of ₹115 crores, marking a 25% year-on-year growth. For the first nine months of FY25, revenue reached ₹320 crores, growing 17% YoY. EBITDA for Q3 FY25 stood at ₹42 crores with a 36% margin, a slight decrease from 39% in Q3 FY24. The nine-month EBITDA was ₹122 crores at a 38% margin, compared to ₹114 crores at 42% in the prior year. PAT for the nine-month period was ₹99 crores, up from ₹96 crores in 9M FY24.

    02

    Segmental Growth Drivers

    The Consumer Tech and Enterprise (C&E) segment was a significant growth driver, with revenue surging 39% year-on-year to ₹65 crores in Q3 FY25. The Automotive and Mobility (A&M) segment grew 9% YoY to ₹49 crores, outperforming the overall auto industry. Over the first nine months, A&M revenue grew 16% YoY, with the number of licenses increasing by 23%. The Map-led business demonstrated a strong 33% growth in Q3 FY25, while subscription services across the company grew 31% YoY.

    03

    Strategic Initiatives and Joint Venture Operationalization

    A key strategic milestone in Q3 FY25 was the successful operationalization of the joint venture with Hyundai Autoever in Indonesia. This JV is expected to contribute revenue from Q1 or Q2 of the next financial year and fully ramp up over 2-3 years. The company also noted significant deal wins across various sectors, including a major global social media network, quick commerce, and BFSI, though specific details were withheld due to NDAs.

    04

    IoT-led Business Challenges and Subscription Strength

    The IoT-led business experienced a slower growth of 4% YoY in Q3 FY25, primarily due to delays in some anticipated large projects that were postponed to the next financial year. This impacted hardware sales, which did not pick up as expected. However, the company emphasized its focus on building the IoT business with higher-margin subscription revenue, which grew 31% YoY and resulted in the IoT-led EBITDA margin improving from 8% in 9M FY24 to 12% in 9M FY25.

    05

    Government Business and Margin Impact

    The company is increasingly pursuing government-led GIS projects, recognizing them as strategic opportunities despite lower margins. Management acknowledged that government work typically has lower margins than corporate or automotive sectors, which can draw down the overall company margin. However, they are confident in getting paid, with government receivables generally under 100 days, and expect government projects to constitute a double-digit percentage of FY25 revenue, though less than 20%.

    06

    FY25 and Long-term Growth Outlook

    Management reiterated its confidence in achieving the full-year FY25 revenue growth guidance of 25%, despite the 17% growth observed in the first nine months. The company also maintained its long-term target of achieving ₹1,000 crores in revenue by FY28, based on a sustained 25% growth rate. They emphasized strong execution and a capable team as key enablers for these targets.

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