Zaggle Prepaid Ocean Services Limited — Q2 FY25 earnings call

Call held 13 Nov 2024

Management summary

Zaggle Prepaid reported a strong Q2 FY25, achieving its highest-ever quarterly revenue and significant profit growth, driven by robust performance across its program fees and Propel Points segments. The company upped its FY25 top-line growth guidance to 50-55% and reiterated its goal to double FY24 revenues in two years. Strategic moves included the acquisition of TaxSpanner and board approval for a substantial fundraise, positioning Zaggle for continued organic and inorganic expansion in the evolving spend management market.

Highlights

  • Record quarterly revenue of ₹302.6 crores, reflecting a 64.2% YoY growth.

  • Adjusted EBITDA reached ₹29.5 crores, growing 36% YoY, with a margin of 9.8%.

  • Cash PAT surged by 43% YoY to ₹23.817 crores, marking the highest ever.

  • PAT more than doubled to ₹18.6 crores from ₹7.6 crores in the previous year.

  • H1 FY25 revenue from operations grew 83% YoY to ₹554.8 crores.

  • H1 FY25 adjusted EBITDA increased 55% to ₹55.1 crores.

  • FY25 top-line growth guidance upped to 50-55% from 45-55%.

  • Board approved fundraise of up to ₹950 crores, and acquisition of TaxSpanner completed.

Key financials

  1. Revenue ₹302.6 Cr +64.2%YoY
  2. Adjusted EBITDA ₹29.5 Cr +36%YoY
  3. Adjusted EBITDA Margin 9.8%
  4. PAT ₹18.6 Cr +144.7%YoY
  5. Cash PAT ₹23.817 Cr +43%YoY
  6. Gross Debt ₹55.5 Cr
  7. Cash & Bank Balance ₹182.7 Cr

What they filed

Q1 FY27: revenue up 27.4%, net profit down 30.8% against the same quarter last year.

₹ Cr · quarterly
Line itemQ2 FY25Q3 FY25Q4 FY25Q1 FY26Q2 FY26Q3 FY26Q4 FY26Q1 FY27
Revenue303 337 412 332 432 +43%526 +56%618 +50%423 +27%
EBITDA27 29 36 30 44 +63%52 +79%58 +61%31 +3%
Net profit20 20 31 26 35 +75%37 +85%41 +32%18 −31%
How to read this

₹ crore, as filed. The percentage beside a figure is the change against the same quarter a year earlier — never the quarter before, which would make every seasonal business look like it collapses and booms each year.

Segment breakdown

Share of Revenue
₹302.5 Cr Total
  • Propel Points Revenue ₹168 Cr 55.5%
  • Program Fees Revenue ₹126 Cr 41.7%
  • SaaS/Platform/Service Fee Revenue ₹8.5 Cr 2.8%

Guidance & targets

Revenue

  • Top Line Growth Revenue · FY25 · High confidence 50-55%

    Previously 45-55%50-55%

    Given our strong performance this quarter, we are upping our guidance to 50% to 55% growth in our top line for FY25.

    — Dr. Raj Narayanam, Founder and Executive Chairman

  • Revenue Doubling Revenue · next 2 years · High confidence Double FY24 revenues
    We are very confident of doubling our FY24 revenues in the next 2 years.

    — Dr. Raj Narayanam, Founder and Executive Chairman

Profitability

  • Propel Gross Margin Profitability · full year · High confidence 7-9%
    So, from next quarter onwards, end of this year H2, we will get the margins back to normalized margins of 7 percentage to 9 percentage. ... So, for the full year, we will have that 7% to 9% margin? Yes.

    — Aditya Kumar, Chief Financial Officer

  • EBITDA Margins Profitability · next few years · Medium confidence significant growth / very different profile
    See right now we have given a guidance that we hold to current to similar levels, but in the coming years we see a significant growth in the EBITDA margins. And we believe that in the next few years, we will see a very different EBITDA profile in the coming few years.

    — Mr. Avinash Godkhindi, Managing Director and CEO

Operating Expenses

  • Total ESOP Expenses Operating Expenses · FY25 · High confidence ₹10 crores
    During FY25, we expect to record total ESOP expenses close to INR100 million.

    — Aditya Kumar, Chief Financial Officer

Balance Sheet

  • Trade Receivables Balance Sheet · FY25 · Medium confidence similar lines on the totality basis
    For this year, it should be in the similar lines on the totality basis if you compare.

    — Aditya Kumar, Chief Financial Officer

Customer Metrics

  • User per Customer Customer Metrics · next 2-3 quarters · Medium confidence will grow
    The users get added over a period of time. So this number will grow as we go along is what our belief is. And, in the next two, three quarters, this should grow.

    — Mr. Avinash Godkhindi, Managing Director and CEO

Risks & concerns

  • Funding winter in Fintech industry

    medium

    Management noted that competitors are facing headwinds due to tight funding, which Zaggle sees as an opportunity to gain market share.

    Management acknowledged

  • Regulatory/Compliance risks (RBI view on products, NBFC acquisition)

    medium

    Analyst questioned RBI's view on products and risks of NBFC acquisition; management emphasized conservative approach, adherence to regulations, and focus on tech-led plays.

    Analyst acknowledged

  • Lack of granular operational data for investors

    low

    Management found it difficult to provide specific segment-wise GTV/revenue and card issuance numbers due to cross-usage, stating 'spends' are the key metric.

    Analyst downplayed

Areas of evasion (3)

  • Specific split of QIP funds between organic/inorganic growth
  • Exact revenue contribution of Zoyer and other new segments
  • Specific payment volumes across credit/prepaid cards or number of cards issued

Q&A highlights

1 direct, 1 evasive
Propel Platform Gross Margins Direct
So, from next quarter onwards, end of this year H2, we will get the margins back to normalized margins of 7 percentage to 9 percentage. ... So, for the full year, we will have that 7% to 9% margin? Yes.

Clarifies the expected recovery and stability of margins for a key revenue segment after a temporary dip.

Asked by Ankush Agrawal

Allocation of INR 950 Crores QIP Fundraise Partial
Difficult to say at this moment how much would the split be, but broadly that is the commentary that we can give you. ... for both organic growth, international expansion as well as inorganic growth.

Indicates the strategic flexibility for capital deployment but lacks specific allocation percentages, leaving investors to infer priorities.

Asked by Ankush Agrawal

Specific Segment Revenue (Zoyer) and Operational Metrics (Payment Volumes, Cards Issued) Evasive
giving a breakup would be a little difficult for us because the same card is being used for multiple use cases and that's by design. ... No, I'm telling you, we have not been able to arrive at a number because there's a lot of cross usage of the card... If it is required we can connect separately.

Management's inability or unwillingness to provide granular segment revenue or key operational metrics like payment volumes and card counts limits investor visibility into specific product performance.

Asked by Debashish Mazumdar / Rohan Nagpal

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Detailed narrative

Record Q2 FY25 Performance and Upped Guidance

Zaggle Prepaid delivered its highest-ever quarterly revenue of ₹302.6 crores in Q2 FY25, marking a robust 64.2% year-on-year growth. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter reached ₹29.5 crores, up 36% YoY, with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 9.8%. The company's PAT more than doubled to ₹18.6 crores, and cash PAT surged by 43% to ₹23.817 crores. Building on this strong performance, management upped its FY25 top-line growth guidance to 50-55% from the earlier 45-55%.

Strategic Acquisitions and Investments

As part of its growth strategy, Zaggle completed the strategic acquisition of TaxSpanner, which will add comprehensive tax services to its spend management solutions. The company also received board approval for an investment in Mobileware Technologies, a key player in payment infrastructure development in India. These moves align with Zaggle's focus on M&A opportunities in the fintech sector, including NBFCs, payments, and SaaS, to expand its product portfolio and customer base.

Cross-Sell and Platform Strategy Driving Growth

Zaggle continues to prioritize cross-selling, aiming for deeper integration into client ecosystems and transitioning towards a platform company model. The Zoyer Petty Cash Solution, enabled with QR payments, has seen significant acceptance, exemplified by its implementation at Subway to improve spend visibility. The Bharat Bill Payment System (BBPS) solution, integrated into Zoyer, is also gaining traction, with Berkowits Health and Skin Clinic recently signing up. The company's first fleet solution for Torrent Gas went live, tapping into a large addressable market of ₹79,000 crores.

Capital Raising and M&A Outlook

The Board of Directors approved a fundraise of up to ₹950 crores (₹9,500 million), subject to shareholder approval, to support both organic and inorganic growth, as well as international expansion. Management indicated a focus on tech-led M&A opportunities in fintech, aiming to boost EBITDA, expand product portfolios, or open new markets. While specific allocation of the QIP funds was not detailed, it provides the company with flexibility to pursue strategic opportunities.

Margin Management and Optimization

Propel Points revenue contributed ₹168 crores to the quarterly revenue, with management expecting gross margins for this segment to return to a normalized range of 7-9% for the full year, after a temporary dip due to high brand usage. The company is actively optimizing cashbacks and incentives, which contributed to lower payouts in Q2. Management anticipates significant EBITDA margin expansion in the coming years due to operating leverage and cross-sell benefits, aligning with an analyst's view of 15-16% in the medium to long term.

Market Opportunity and Competitive Landscape

The global spend management market is expanding at 10.2% annually, with the Indian market growing at a CAGR of 15.5%, highlighting a strong demand for efficient solutions. Management noted a 'funding winter' in the fintech industry, leading some competitors to abandon growth plans and focus on profitability, or even close down. Zaggle views this as a 'beautiful opportunity' to expand rapidly and consolidate its position as a leading spend management company in India.

New Product Initiatives and International Expansion

Zaggle is actively pursuing new product initiatives like Zaggle International Payments (ZIP) for forex and remittances, leveraging high overseas travel. The company has also signed with ONDC, seeing it as a significant opportunity to ride on its growth, particularly for rewards gifting from corporates. Internationally, the US market is identified as a key opportunity for expansion, with strong customer demand for Zaggle's products and a cost-effective service delivery model from India.

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