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Earnings call · Dec 2024 (Q1 FY25)

EMERSON ELECTRIC Q1 FY25 earnings call EMR

Feb 5, 2025 Source

Executive summary

Emerson Q1 FY25 — Strong Operational Performance Offsets FX Headwinds

Emerson delivered robust Q1 FY25 results, with strong operational execution and record profitability in its process and hybrid markets. This performance largely offset significant foreign exchange headwinds, enabling the company to reiterate its full-year guidance for underlying sales, adjusted EPS, and free cash flow. The company continues its portfolio transformation, with a focus on disciplined bolt-on M&A, while capitalizing on secular growth drivers in LNG and power generation.

Highlights

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  • Adjusted EPS exceeded expectations at $1.38, up 13% year-over-year.

  • Gross profit margin was a record 53.5%, reflecting portfolio value.

  • Adjusted segment EBITDA margins reached a record 28%, a 340 basis point improvement.

  • Free cash flow was strong at $694 million, up 89% versus Q1 2024, with a 17% margin.

  • Underlying orders were up 1% year-over-year, with book-to-bill greater than 1 in Q1.

Concerns

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  • Foreign exchange movements created a $350 million headwind on GAAP net sales guidance and unfavorably impacted adjusted EPS by approximately $0.08.

  • Discrete businesses were down approximately 4% in Q1, starting slower than expected.

  • China demand remained muted, down mid-single digits in Q1, with growth uncertain for the full year.

  • Automotive and factory automation end markets showed muted performances.

Guidance & targets

CategoryTargetConfidence
Full-year 2025 Underlying Sales Growth
3% to 5%
high materiality
High
Full-year 2025 GAAP Net Sales Growth
1.5% to 3.5%
high materiality
High
Full-year 2025 Adjusted EPS
$5.85 to $6.05
high materiality
High
Full-year 2025 Free Cash Flow
$3.2 billion to $3.3 billion
high materiality
High
Full-year 2025 Operating Leverage
70s
medium materiality
High
Q2 FY25 Underlying Sales Growth
1% to 2%
medium materiality
High
Q2 FY25 Adjusted Segment EBITDA Margin
approximately 26.5%
medium materiality
High
Q2 FY25 Adjusted EPS
$1.38 and $1.42
high materiality
High
Full-year 2025 Safety and Productivity Adjusted EPS Contribution
approximately $0.48
medium materiality
High
Full-year 2025 Safety and Productivity Free Cash Flow Contribution
approximately $200 million
medium materiality
High
Full-year 2025 Safety and Productivity Underlying Sales
flat
medium materiality
High
Full-year 2025 AspenTech Adjusted EPS Contribution
$0.44 to $0.46
medium materiality
High
Q2 FY25 AspenTech Adjusted EPS Contribution
$0.11
medium materiality
High
LNG Project Awards to EPCs
greater than 80 MTPA per year
high materiality
High
Emerson Orders from LNG Projects
greater than $1 billion
high materiality
High

Segment performance

SegmentRevenueYoYQoQMargin
Process and Hybrid businesses
Led by robust demand in the Middle East and strength in the U.S. (MRO and project awards). Exceptional demand growth in power and continued strength in energy and energy transition projects globally. Strong investment in chemical in Middle East and Americas.
Underlying orders: low single digits (Q1 YoY)Underlying sales: mid-single digits (Q1 YoY)Full-year growth expectation: mid-single digits
mid-single digits
Discrete businesses
Started slower than expected, with muted performances in automotive and factory automation, offset by momentum in industrial, semiconductor, and discrete MRO. Expecting meaningful recovery in the second half against easier comps.
Full-year growth expectation: low single-digit rangeSequential orders: up (Q1)
down 4%
Software and Control
Contributed $0.09 to adjusted EPS growth.
4%
Intelligent Devices
Contributed $0.07 to adjusted EPS growth.
2%
Americas
Driven by North America MRO and Latin America broadly.
3%
Asia and Middle East
Robust project activity in the Middle East offset softness in Asia.
4%
Europe
down 2%
China
Demand remained muted in Q1, with strength in power offset by weakness in chemical and discrete end markets. Expectation for growth in the second half, aiming for a flat year.
Full-year expectation: flat
down mid-single digits

Operational metrics

Price contribution to growth
1.5
Q1 FY25
Adjusted segment EBITDA margin
28 up 340 bps
Q1 FY25
Free cash flow margin
17
Q1 FY25
Share repurchase
$1 billion
Q1 FY25

Completed as guided.

Total capital returned to shareholders
$3.2 billion
FY25

Full-year expectation.

Operating leverage
265
Q1 FY25

Exceeded guide.

MRO sales as percentage of total sales
64
Q1 FY25
Nuclear power sales
$325 million
FY24
Ovation control systems automated electricity generation
1.8 terawatts
current
LNG automation content per MTPA
$10 million
per MTPA
LNG project win rate (full portfolio)
approximately 50
current
LNG project win rate (control systems)
greater than 50
current
Power and Renewables sales
approximately 10
FY24
Project funnel total
$11.5 billion
Q1 FY25
Project funnel excluding semiconductor
$11.2 billion up 7% YoY
Q1 FY25

Consistent with last quarter.

Project awards from funnel
$400 million
Q1 FY25

Awards in the quarter that exited the funnel.

Annual Contract Value (ACV) growth
10
Q1 FY25

Led by double-digit growth from control systems and software.

Gross profit margin
53.5
Q1 FY25
FX headwind on GAAP net sales
$350 million
FY25

Due to U.S. dollar strengthening at the end of Q1.

FX impact on adjusted EPS
$0.08 unfavorable
FY25

Predominantly offset by strong Q1 operational performance.

FX impact on Q2 underlying sales
1.5 unfavorable
Q2 FY25
LNG operational capacity wave
250 million tonnes per annum approximately 2/3 through
current wave
LNG awarded to EPCs
18 MTPA
2024
Installed renewable capacity growth
triple
by 2030
Grid infrastructure investment required
$3 trillion
by 2030

To support electrification and renewable energy.

Semiconductor project opportunities in funnel
$300 million
current

Classified as a growth platform.

Industry KPIs

MetricValueDetails
Book to bill ratiogreater than 1
Orders bookings growth1 %
Gigawatts under contract1.8 terawatts TW
M a acquisition contribution$0.11 USD
Backlog by segment end market$7.3 billion USD
Data center exposure pipeline$300 million USD
Incremental flow through margin265 %

Orderbook & backlog

Total backlog $7.3 billion Q1 FY25

up slightly sequentially; up 4% sequentially excluding FX

Product announcements

ProductTypeDetails
DeltaV Edge Environmentmilestone
DeltaV Edge Environment 2.0update
DeltaV workflow management softwaremilestone

Deals & partnerships

AspenTech Acquisition of all outstanding shares not already owned by Emerson. $265 per share (all-cash tender offer)

Agreement reached for Emerson to acquire all outstanding shares of AspenTech common stock not already owned by Emerson for $265 per share pursuant to an all-cash tender offer. Comments are limited until appropriate.

Pembina and Haisla Nation (via Black & Veatch) Award for Cedar LNG, a floating LNG facility.

Emerson will provide leading technology from across the automation stack, including valves, instruments, control systems, and optimization software. Emerson was selected due to demonstrated FLNG expertise and global reach.

Risks & headwinds

Foreign Exchange (FX) Headwinds FY25

$350 million headwind on GAAP net sales; $0.08 unfavorable impact on adjusted EPS

Mitigation:Strong Q1 operational performance predominantly offset the EPS impact; embedded assumptions in guidance.

Tariffs (Mexico) evolving

Not quantified, but potential impact on P&L

Mitigation:Prepared for a variety of scenarios; ready to implement price and surcharges to protect P&L commitments; assumptions embedded in guide.

Discrete Businesses Softness Q1 FY25, expected to continue into Q2

Underlying sales down approximately 4% in Q1

Mitigation:Expect a meaningful recovery against easier comps in the second half; discrete volumes expected to be up sequentially in Q2.

China Demand Muted Q1 FY25, expected to better towards H2

Down mid-single digits in Q1

Mitigation:Expecting recovery in chemical industry with power continuing strong; aiming for a flat year in China.

Muted Performance in Automotive and Factory Automation Q1 FY25

Not quantified, but described as 'muted'

Mitigation:Easier comparisons in the second half will drive growth in both segments as modeled.

What to watch in Q2 FY25

Discrete orders ramp

Q2 FY25 / H2 FY25
Current down 4% YoY in Q1
Target slightly positive in Q2, meaningful ramp in H2

Why it matters

The recovery of discrete businesses is key to achieving full-year sales guidance and reflects broader industrial market health.

We are expecting discrete orders to turn slightly positive in Q2 with a more meaningful orders ramp in the second half.

Q&A highlights

Can you clarify why FX was a headwind on sales but a benefit to EPS in the earnings bridge?

The $0.04 EPS benefit from FX was due to transactional effects in the prior year not recurring, rather than translation of the P&L. It relates to non-functional balance sheet pieces.

“The benefit of $0.04 was largely some transactional effects that was in the prior year that didn't happen in the current year. So we had a number of losses that didn't emerge. And again, that's not the translation of the P&L. That's just translating the nonfunctional balance sheet pieces, and that's the $0.04 that we're referencing.”

asked by C. Stephen Tusa · answered by Michael Baughman

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Detailed narrative

Q1 Operational Excellence and Portfolio Transformation

Emerson delivered a strong Q1 FY25, with underlying sales up 2% and adjusted EPS growing 13% to $1.38, exceeding expectations. This performance was driven by robust execution, including record gross and adjusted segment EBITDA margins of 53.5% and 28% respectively. The company is in the final phase of its portfolio transformation, having reached an agreement to acquire the remaining shares of AspenTech and continuing the strategic alternatives process for Safety and Productivity. Operational strength allowed the company to reiterate full-year guidance despite significant FX headwinds.

LNG and Power as Key Growth Platforms

LNG is identified as a significant growth opportunity, with a potential for over $1 billion in Emerson orders over the next few years, driven by an expected 80+ MTPA per year in EPC awards. Power is reclassified as a growth platform, representing approximately 10% of 2024 sales, with Emerson poised to capitalize on global project investments in response to rising electricity demand and grid complexity. The company's Ovation control systems automate 20% of global electricity generation, including 50% in the U.S., and it secured a key win for the Sizewell C nuclear project in the U.K.

Project Funnel Health and Market Dynamics

The project funnel stands at $11.5 billion ($11.2 billion excluding semiconductor), up 7% year-over-year, indicating a constructive environment for customer investments. While process and hybrid markets show stable demand and mid-single-digit growth, discrete businesses started slower, down 4% in Q1, with automotive and factory automation being muted. China demand was also muted, down mid-single digits, but expected to improve in the second half.

Tariff Strategy and Supply Chain Regionalization

Emerson has a proactive strategy to mitigate tariff impacts, leveraging learnings from 2018 Section 232 and 301 tariffs. The company implemented supply chain derisking and price actions, resulting in de minimis impact from prior tariffs. For current tariff situations, particularly in Mexico, Emerson is prepared to implement price and surcharges to protect profitability, with these assumptions embedded in the full-year guidance.

Innovation in Software and Control

Emerson's DeltaV business received two significant awards: the 2024 Processing Breakthrough Product for DeltaV Edge Environment and the 2025 IoT Breakthrough Award for Industrial IoT Innovation of the Year for DeltaV workflow management software. The DeltaV Edge Environment 2.0 release further enhances data integration for advanced analytics and AI at the edge, while the workflow management software aids life science companies in developing and manufacturing therapies more efficiently.

Margin Drivers and Outlook

The record adjusted segment EBITDA margin of 28% in Q1 was driven by favorable price, net material inflation, beneficial mix (including strong AspenTech contribution), and cost reductions. Operating leverage of 265% significantly exceeded guidance. While some discretionary costs will return and mix dynamics will temper, price/cost management and ongoing cost reductions are expected to continue supporting margins throughout the year, with full-year operating leverage now guided to the 70s.

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