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Ferrovial SE (FER) Q2 FY25 earnings call: guidance and Q&A

Earnings call· Jun 2025 (Q2 FY25)· Industrials· Jul 30, 2025

Source: earnings call transcript

Executive summary

Ferrovial SE Q2 FY25 — North American toll-road engine drives double-digit highway growth

The half rests on Ferrovial's North American toll-road engine: segmentation-driven dynamic pricing on unconstrained assets (I-66/I-77) and mandatory-mode capture on the soft-capped Dallas lanes are converting weather- and construction-dampened traffic into outsized revenue-per-transaction gains, while capital rotates out of divested airports into a deeper 407 ETR stake. Construction holds its target margin on a record order book; the JFK terminal's final, hardest build year is the key execution watch.

Highlights

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  • Highways revenue grew 14.9% and adjusted EBITDA 17.1% like-for-like in H1, with U.S. highways +15.9% revenue and representing 88% of highways revenue / 97% of adjusted EBITDA

  • 407 ETR delivered 13% H1 EBITDA growth despite Schedule 22 provisions, on 19.7% revenue growth (total +19.3%), 25.4% fee-revenue growth and Q2 traffic +5.8%

  • Unconstrained toll assets posted strong revenue-per-transaction gains — I-77 +23.8% and I-66 +22.5% in H1 (I-77 Q2 revenue +28% YoY)

  • Construction adjusted EBIT reached EUR 119M (+11.2% LFL) at a 3.5% adjusted EBIT margin, on a record-high order book of EUR 17.3 billion (45% North America)

  • New Terminal One at JFK advanced to 72% complete on budget/schedule, with 21 airline commitments (13 executed, 8 LOIs) and a $1.4B green-bond issuance completing Phase A refinancing

Concerns

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  • Construction operating cash flow was negative EUR 104M in H1 versus negative EUR 53M a year ago, driven by a lack of advance payments

  • 407 ETR accrued Schedule 22 provisions of CAD 45.2M in H1 (CAD 19.3M in Q2); Dallas lanes NTE (-4.8% H1) and LBJ traffic pressured by capacity/construction works and adverse weather

  • Revenue-sharing dragged managed-lane EBITDA — I-77 $10.3M, NTE 35W $9.9M and NTE $2.7M in H1

  • Budimex order book declined since the start of the year on lower H1 hours; Ferrovial Construction Q2 margin fell YoY on higher IT and bidding costs

  • The Allerton energy-from-waste plant in the U.K. had unplanned downtime from superheater/boiler leaks, requiring a provision for the stoppage and eventual tube replacement

Guidance & targets

CategoryTargetConfidence
Construction long-term average adjusted EBIT margin
3.5%
high materiality
High
Cumulative shareholder distributions (2024-2026)
EUR 2.2 billion
high materiality
High
407 ETR Q3 2025 dividend distribution
CAD 250 million
medium materiality
High
New Terminal One (JFK) opening
On schedule and on budget (analyst-cited June 2026 opening)
high materiality
Medium
New Terminal One remaining equity investment
EUR 63 million pending
low materiality
High
US Managed Lanes bid submittals (I-24 Nashville, I-285 East Atlanta)
Bids to be submitted in H1 2026
medium materiality
Medium
Budimex / Poland order outlook
Positive multi-year outlook (EU funds, infrastructure, energy/data centers, potential Ukraine reconstruction)
low materiality
Low

Segment performance

SegmentRevenueYoYQoQMargin
Highways (division)
Growth driven by U.S. assets, underlying metropolitan economic/population growth and value-based pricing.
US highways revenue growth: +15.9% LFL (H1)US highways adjusted EBITDA growth: +14% LFL (H1)US highways share of highways revenue: 88%US highways share of adjusted EBITDA: 97%North American highways dividends: EUR 240M H1 (vs EUR 339M PY, which included larger first I-77 dividend)
—+14.9% like-for-like (H1)—Adjusted EBITDA +17.1% like-for-like (H1)
407 ETR (Toronto)
Higher toll rates effective Jan 1, 2025 plus fee growth; promotions from March lifted peak traffic; double-digit EBITDA despite Schedule 22 and higher OpEx.
Fee revenue growth: +25.4% (H1)Traffic: +5.8% (Q2)Schedule 22 provision: CAD 45.2M H1 (CAD 19.3M Q2)Dividends paid: CAD 200M (H1); CAD 250M approved for Q3Ferrovial stake: raised to 48.29% from 43.23%
—Revenue +19.7% H1 (total revenue +19.3%)—Adjusted EBITDA +13% (H1)
NTE (Dallas Managed Lanes)
Soft-capped asset; traffic hit by capacity-improvement construction; revenue/transaction up on favorable traffic mix and more mandatory-mode events.
Revenue per transaction: +13.5% (H1)Revenue share impact: $2.7MDividends: $108M H1 at 100%
—Transactions -4.8% H1 (-3.9% Q2)—Adjusted EBITDA +6.3% (H1)
LBJ (Dallas Managed Lanes)
Growth despite increasing effect from construction in nearby corridors (including I-35 East configuration changes).
Revenue per transaction: +8.8% (H1)Dividends: $52M (H1)
—Transactions +1.3% (H1)—Adjusted EBITDA +10.8% (H1)
NTE 35 West (Dallas Managed Lanes)
Only Dallas project not affected by area construction works; illustrates underlying Dallas-Fort Worth performance.
Revenue per transaction: +9.2% (H1)Revenue share impact: $9.9MDividends: $99M (H1)
+13.5% (H1)Transactions +3.9% (H1)—Adjusted EBITDA +9.7% (H1)
I-66 (Virginia)
No soft cap; robust growth from corridor demand at peak hours despite adverse weather.
Revenue per transaction: +22.5% H1 (+20.1% Q2)Dividends: $64M at 100%
—Transactions +5.5% H1 (+6.9% Q2)——
I-77 (Charlotte)
Q2 revenue growth mostly from toll-rate increases; toll rates still well below other portfolio assets; prior alternative-lane-closure benefit has mostly dissipated.
Revenue per transaction: +23.8% (H1)Revenue share impact: $10.3M H1 (incl. extended-vehicle sharing)Dividends: $22M at 100%
+28% YoY (Q2)Transactions +1.4% H1 (+2.3% Q2)—Adjusted EBITDA +22% (H1)
Airports — New Terminal One (JFK)
On budget and on schedule; 2025 is the milestone-heavy final build year with system integration and airline negotiations.
Construction progress: 72% as of end Q2Airline commitments: 21 (13 executed agreements, 8 letters of intent)H1 equity invested: EUR 244M (EUR 63M pending in 2026)Green bond issuance: $1.4B (Phase A refinancing)
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Airports — Dalaman (Turkey)
Revenue/EBITDA growth from higher commercial income per passenger, partly offset by inflation-driven OpEx.
Traffic: -0.3% H1 (lower domestic; international in line with 2024)
+10.4% (H1)Traffic -0.3% (H1)—Adjusted EBITDA +10.9% (H1)
Construction (division)
Solid profitability in line with 3.5% long-term margin target; OCF weakness from lack of advance payments; limited inflation exposure anticipated.
Order book: EUR 17.3B record high (45% North America)Pre-awards / awaiting financial close (not in book): EUR 2.7BOperating cash flow: negative EUR 104M H1 (vs -EUR 53M PY)
EUR 3,453M (+2.6% LFL, H1)+2.6% like-for-like—Adjusted EBIT EUR 119M (+11.2% LFL), 3.5% adjusted EBIT margin; adjusted EBITDA EUR 191M (+4.2%)
Construction — Budimex (Poland)
Order weakness framed as temporary/timing; positive multi-year Poland outlook (EU funds, data centers).
Order book: declined since start of year; lower H1 hours
———Adjusted EBIT margin 7.3%
Construction — Webber (US)
Supporting some large US managed-lane projects alongside Ferrovial Construction.
Order book: record high
———Adjusted EBIT margin 2.7% (stable)
Construction — Ferrovial Construction
H1 margin improved 50bps YoY; Q2 pressured by overhead and increased bidding costs tied to a strong (but costly-to-tender) pipeline.
Q2 margin down YoY on higher IT-utilization and rising bidding/tender costs
———Adjusted EBIT margin 1.6% (+50bps YoY, H1)

Orderbook & backlog

Construction total order book EUR 17.3 billion June 30, 2025 (end H1 2025)

Record high

45% North America; EUR 2.7B of pre-awards / projects awaiting financial close not yet included; Webber at record book, Budimex declined vs start of year.

Construction pre-awards / awaiting financial close EUR 2.7 billion June 30, 2025

Not included in the reported Q2 order book; converts on financial close.

Deals & partnerships

AtkinsRéalis acquisition (additional 5.06% stake in 407 ETR) CAD 1.99 billion (EUR 1.3 billion)

Reflects confidence in Greater Toronto Area long-term growth and 407 asset value.

AGS Airports (buyer not named) divestment (entire stake) EUR 533 million

Part of capital-allocation rotation; divestment/impairment impact reflected in P&L.

Heathrow Airport (remaining 5.25% stake) divestment GBP 466 million

Completed sale of entire remaining Heathrow stake shortly after quarter-end.

Mining services business (Chile; buyer not named) divestment EUR 42 million

Completed in Q2 as part of services-portfolio exit.

21 airlines (unnamed) at New Terminal One customer contract

Airline commitments secured for JFK New Terminal One as negotiations advance in 2025.

Tennessee DOT (I-24 Southeast Choice Lanes) pipeline / bid (Ferrovial-led consortium shortlisted/prequalified)

Bid submittal expected H1 2026; part of six-project US managed-lane pipeline alongside I-285 East Atlanta.

Capital programs

New Terminal One (NTO) — JFK Airport underway / on schedule and on budget
Period spend: EUR 244M invested in H1 2025; EUR 63M remaining for 2026
Spent to date: 72% construction complete as of end Q2
Funding: $1.4B long-term green bonds (Phase A refinancing) plus Ferrovial equity injections

Benefit:New international terminal at JFK; 21 airline commitments secured (13 executed, 8 LOIs)

2025 is the milestone-heavy final build year with heavy system integration; management stresses the last year is the most challenging until opening. No further NTO capital investment for the remainder of 2025.

Risks & headwinds

Schedule 22 payments at 407 ETR (revenue-sharing when peak-hour traffic falls below thresholds) Full-year 2025, provision refined quarterly

CAD 45.2M provisioned H1 (CAD 19.3M Q2)

Mitigation:Promotions attracting net-new peak-time users reduce expected Schedule 22 payments; full-year estimate revised down in Q2 on better data.

Revenue-sharing drag on US Managed Lanes EBITDA Ongoing

I-77 $10.3M, NTE 35W $9.9M, NTE $2.7M in H1

Mitigation:Offset by strong revenue-per-transaction growth on the affected assets.

Adverse weather (heavy rain, Texas floods) reducing managed-lane traffic Q2 2025

Not separately quantified; negatively impacted H1 vs prior year across NTE, I-66, I-77, Charlotte, Virginia

Mitigation:No asset damage from Texas floods; underlying economic activity remained positive.

Construction works depressing NTE and LBJ traffic Duration of construction

NTE traffic -4.8% H1 (-3.9% Q2); LBJ affected by I-35 East configuration changes

Mitigation:NTE capacity-improvement work will add capacity; NTE 35W (unaffected) shows underlying Dallas demand.

Rising bidding/tender costs at Ferrovial Construction Expected to continue in following quarters

Not quantified; contributed to lower Q2 YoY margin alongside IT-utilization costs

Mitigation:Costs tied to a strong pipeline seen as potentially high-value if projects are won.

Construction operating cash outflow H1 2025 (seasonal)

Negative EUR 104M H1 (vs -EUR 53M PY)

Mitigation:Driven by lack of advance payments and known working-capital seasonality; Budimex tax payments also a factor.

Budimex order book decline / lower activity H1 2025, framed as temporary

Order book down since start of year; lower H1 hours vs prior-year H1

Mitigation:Positive multi-year Poland outlook (EU funds, infrastructure, energy/data centers, potential Ukraine reconstruction).

Allerton energy-from-waste plant (UK) unplanned downtime H1 2025; plant repaired and back in operation

Not quantified; superheater/boiler leaks caused planned-out stoppage in H1

Mitigation:Provided for the stoppage and eventual replacement of superheater tubes.

US index inclusion / liquidity uncertainty (Nasdaq 100) November 2025 rebalancing

Currently above required average daily liquidity; inclusion depends on relative performance

Mitigation:Building liquidity; analyzing potential future move to US GAAP reporting required for most US indices (no short-term plan).

Q&A highlights

What explains the very strong average revenue-per-transaction growth on I-77/I-66, and how can NTE post +13.5% revenue/transaction despite a ~4% traffic decline?

On I-77/I-66 there is no soft cap, so toll rates rise with the value delivered plus dynamic price adjustment. NTE has a soft cap, so growth comes from mandatory-mode events and a heavier peak/heavy-vehicle traffic mix, on top of annual inflation escalation and slight dynamic pricing.

“in this case, we don't have a soft cap. So we can increase the toll rates according to what we think is the value that we give to customers.”

asked by Luis Prieto · answered by Ignacio Madridejos Fernández

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Detailed narrative

North American highways carry the group

Highways revenue rose 14.9% and adjusted EBITDA 17.1% like-for-like in H1, with U.S. highways up 15.9% in revenue and 14% in EBITDA, now 88% of highways revenue and 97% of adjusted EBITDA. Management attributes the gains to underlying metropolitan economic and population growth plus value captured from users (time savings, reliability, safety) via dynamic pricing.

Dividends from North American highways totaled EUR 240M in H1, down from EUR 339M last year when a larger first I-77 dividend was paid.

407 ETR — pricing plus promotions-driven volume, Schedule 22 dynamics

407 ETR revenue grew 19.7% in H1 (total revenue +19.3%) on higher toll rates effective January 1, 2025, and fee revenue grew 25.4% on higher account, lease and enforcement fees. Q2 traffic rose 5.8% helped by targeted rush-hour promotions from March, partly offset by weather and delayed Highway 401 construction.

EBITDA still grew 13% despite CAD 45.2M of H1 Schedule 22 provisions (CAD 19.3M in Q2). Management stressed promotions bring net-new peak users without eroding regular-user service levels or elasticity, and reduce Schedule 22 exposure. Ferrovial raised its stake to 48.29% via a 5.06% purchase from AtkinsRéalis.

US Managed Lanes — pricing power split by cap structure

Unconstrained assets (I-66, I-77) with no soft cap drove revenue-per-transaction up 22.5% and 23.8% in H1 through toll-rate increases and dynamic pricing, with I-77 Q2 revenue +28% YoY largely from rate. Soft-capped Dallas lanes (NTE, NTE 35W) captured value through mandatory-mode events and a heavier peak/heavy-vehicle traffic mix plus annual inflation escalation.

NTE (-4.8% H1) and LBJ traffic were pressured by capacity-improvement and nearby corridor construction, while NTE 35W — unaffected by construction — grew transactions 3.9%. All lanes saw negative weather effects (heavy rain, Texas floods) but positive underlying economic activity.

Airports — NTO milestone year and Dalaman

New Terminal One at JFK is 72% complete, on budget and schedule, with 21 airline commitments (13 executed agreements, 8 letters of intent) and a $1.4B long-term green-bond issuance completing Phase A refinancing. Ferrovial invested EUR 244M in H1 with EUR 63M remaining for 2026.

Management flagged the final year as the hardest given system integration and coordination. Dalaman (Turkey) saw H1 traffic dip 0.3% on weaker domestic volumes but revenue +10.4% and EBITDA +10.9% on higher commercial income per passenger, partly offset by inflation-driven OpEx.

Construction — target margins on a record book

Construction revenue reached EUR 3,453M (+2.6% LFL), adjusted EBITDA EUR 191M (+4.2%) and adjusted EBIT EUR 119M (+11.2% LFL) at a 3.5% adjusted EBIT margin. Budimex ran a 7.3% EBIT margin, Webber a stable 2.7%, and Ferrovial Construction improved 50bps YoY to 1.6%, though its Q2 margin fell YoY on higher IT-utilization and rising bidding/tender costs tied to a strong pipeline.

The order book hit a record EUR 17.3B (45% North America), with EUR 2.7B of pre-awards/awaiting-financial-close not yet included. Operating cash flow was negative EUR 104M (vs -EUR 53M) on a lack of advance payments and seasonal working capital.

Capital allocation and balance sheet

Ferrovial closed the additional 407 ETR stake for EUR 1.3B (CAD 1.99B), divested AGS Airports for EUR 533M, injected EUR 244M into NTO, collected EUR 323M in dividends from infra projects and distributed EUR 334M to shareholders (cash + buybacks) in H1.

It also sold mining services in Chile for EUR 42M and its remaining 5.25% Heathrow stake for GBP 466M in early July. Ex-infrastructure net position was net cash of EUR 223M at end-H1, excluding Heathrow proceeds. A ticking fee on the fair-valued Heathrow stake lifted Q2 ex-infra financial results; a lower cash return reflected shareholder loans no longer in place at AGS.

The underlying accrual tax rate is around 20%, with capital gains untaxed and U.S. accelerated depreciation deferring cash taxes.

US policy tailwinds and pipeline

Management welcomed the TIFIA leverage-cap expansion from 33% to 49% of eligible project cost as improving financeability of large projects, and sees potential upside from streamlined environmental permitting, though no permitting delays from agency headcount cuts have materialized yet. A Ferrovial-led consortium was shortlisted for the I-24 Southeast Choice Lanes in Tennessee, one of six managed-lane projects in the pipeline, with I-24 and I-285 East Atlanta bids due H1 2026.

Management is also watching the U.S. transportation reauthorization bill.

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