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    Permanent Magnet

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    Capital Goods·30 May 2025
    Management Summary

    Permanent Magnet experienced a challenging Q4 and FY25 with muted revenue growth and margin compression due to weaker demand in key segments and higher operating costs. The company is focusing on strategic initiatives including new product introductions like latching relays, capacity expansion in alloys, and diversifying its customer base, while navigating geopolitical challenges impacting its Quantum Magnetics subsidiary. Management anticipates a strong rebound with 20% revenue growth in FY26.

    Highlights

    8
    • FY25 consolidated revenue increased by a modest 2% to INR 205 crores.

    • Q4 FY25 revenue declined 16% year-on-year to INR 45 crores.

    • FY25 EBITDA margin stood at 15%, down from 17% in the previous year.

    • Q4 FY25 EBITDA margin was 11%, a decrease from 12% in the corresponding quarter last year.

    • Management guided for approximately 20% revenue growth in FY26.

    • The new latching relays product is expected to achieve INR 70-100 crores in peak revenue potential from a capex of INR 15-20 crores.

    • The alloys business capacity is set to expand 6-7 times with a new furnace by December, targeting INR 20-30 crores revenue in FY26.

    • Quantum Magnetics scale-up is currently constrained by geopolitical issues related to rare earth magnet supply from China.

    Concerns

    2
    • Muted EV Segment Demand

    • Geopolitical Constraints on Quantum Magnetics

    What Changed1

    vs Q2 FY26

    Guidance items13 → 10 (-3)
    Key financials

    Metrics

    4

    Periods

    2

    Q4 FY25

    2
    • Revenue
      ₹45 Cr
      YoY-16%
    • EBITDA Margin
      11%

    FY25

    2
    • Consolidated Revenue
      ₹205 Cr
      YoY+2%
    • EBITDA Margin
      15%

    Segment breakdown

    Shunt Business
    ₹60 Cr FY25 Revenue
    List

    Order Book

    medium confidence

    Pipeline

    deal pipeline tcv

    Inquiries for alloys business and discussions with customers for latching relays.

    Cancellations / Deferrals

    • deferred:Demand deceleration in EV segment led to some projects being shelved or put on hold.

    "Order inflows for alloys are positive, but smart meter orders were lesser. EV segment demand is muted, and some projects are shelved."

    Source:
    Prepared remarks

    Capital allocation

    2
    medium confidence
    CategoryHeadline
    Capex

    Capex disclosed

    M&A

    REL Developments Limited

    joint venture · signed

    Guidance & targets

    10
    CategoryTargetPriority
    Revenue
    Overall Revenue Growth
    20%
    Medium
    Revenue
    Latching Relays Peak Revenue Potential
    INR 70-100 crores
    Medium
    Revenue
    Alloy Business FY26 Revenue
    INR 20-30 crores
    Medium
    Margin
    Overall Margins
    similar level
    Medium
    Product Development
    Latching Relays Traction
    Meaningful traction
    Medium
    Product Development
    Latching Relays Production Start
    Second half of this year
    High
    Capex
    Alloy Furnace Installation
    by this December
    High
    Capacity
    Alloy Capacity Expansion
    6-7 times
    High
    Revenue Growth
    Export Energy Meters Growth
    5-10%
    Medium
    Operations
    New Plant Operations Start
    2 to 3 years
    Medium

    What to watch in Q1 FY26

    5

    Latching Relays Traction & Production Start

    Next quarter / H2 FY26
    CurrentDiscussions with customers, capex initiated, equipment orders placed.
    TargetMeaningful traction in FY26, production start in H2 FY26.

    Why it matters

    This is a key new product expected to drive growth and diversify the smart meters business, acting as an import substitute.

    We anticipate meaningful traction in this product line in 2026, financial year 2026.

    Risks & concerns

    6
    RiskSeverity

    Muted EV Segment Demand

    Demand from the EV segment remained muted in FY25 due to intense competition from Chinese OEMs and moderation of rapid adoption phase, leading to a 16% decline in Q4 revenue.Management acknowledged

    high

    Lower Domestic Smart Meter Orders

    Domestic smart meter orders were lesser due to lower demand from key customers, prompting diversification efforts.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Slower Alloys Commercial Offtake

    Commercial offtake in the alloys business was slower than anticipated in FY25, though recent order inflows are positive.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Geopolitical Constraints on Quantum Magnetics

    Scale-up of Quantum Magnetics is constrained by global geopolitical issues affecting rare earth magnet supply from China, including export restrictions, leading to uncertainty.Management acknowledged

    high

    Profitability Impact from Operating & Depreciation Costs

    Higher operating expenses, including developmental costs, and increased depreciation expenses impacted profitability in Q4 and FY25.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Margin Pressure from Standardized Products

    The strategic shift towards more standardized products is expected to result in lower margins compared to previously high-margin customized products.Management acknowledged

    medium

    Q&A highlights

    8

    “See, latching relays generally on an average per meter ranges from about INR 225 to may be about INR 300 or maybe INR 325, depending on the customization and depending on the quality of the product. So roughly, that is the value per meter that you can calculate.”

    Clarifies the per-unit value and potential market size for the newly introduced latching relays, a key growth driver.

    asked by Ankit Gupta

    3 min read7 chapters

    Detailed Narrative

    01

    Q4 & FY25 Financial Performance Overview

    Permanent Magnet reported a modest 2% increase in consolidated revenue to INR 205 crores for FY25, reflecting a challenging operating environment. Q4 FY25 saw a 16% year-on-year decline in revenue, reaching INR 45 crores, primarily due to weaker demand in certain key business segments. Profitability was also impacted, with FY25 EBITDA margins at 15% (down from 17% in the prior year) and Q4 EBITDA margins at 11% (down from 12%), largely attributable to higher operating expenses, developmental costs, and increased depreciation.

    02

    Electric Vehicle & Automotive Segment Challenges

    Demand from the EV segment remained muted throughout FY25, particularly from Western OEMs facing intense competition from Chinese manufacturers. This led to a deceleration in demand, with some projects being shelved or put on hold. In response, PML is actively diversifying its customer base and deepening engagement with the Indian EV supply chain, with supplies to leading domestic EV OEMs already underway, aiming to stabilize its position as the market matures.

    03

    Smart Meters & Latching Relays Initiative

    Domestic smart meter orders were lower in FY25 due to reduced demand from key customers. To address this, PML has broadened its product portfolio by adding latching relays through a licensing agreement with REL Developments Limited from the U.K. This initiative involves a capex of INR 15-20 crores for manufacturing, with production expected to start in the second half of FY26, and is projected to achieve INR 70-100 crores in peak revenue potential, acting as a key growth driver and domestic alternative for metering companies.

    04

    Alloys Business Growth & Certification

    The alloys business experienced slower commercial offtake in FY25 than anticipated, but recent order inflows in April and a positive demand outlook for FY26 are reinforcing confidence. The company secured AS9100:2016 certification for its alloys facility, opening opportunities in aerospace, aviation, and defense sectors. To meet growing demand, PML plans to add a new furnace by December, which will expand its capacity by 6-7 times, with FY26 revenue expected to be INR 20-30 crores.

    05

    Quantum Magnetics & Rare Earth Supply Chain

    The scale-up of the Quantum Magnetics subsidiary is currently constrained by global geopolitical issues affecting the supply of rare earth magnets, particularly export restrictions from China. This has created significant uncertainty, halting commercial orders despite efforts to secure licenses. PML is actively looking for alternative partners and aims to establish a full supply chain from India for rare earth magnets, which are crucial for EVs and renewable energy, aligning with national priorities.

    06

    Strategic Outlook & Margin Profile

    PML views FY25 as a year of consolidation and transition, with strategic initiatives across alloys, smart meters, and quantum magnetics expected to drive a strong rebound. The company anticipates approximately 20% revenue growth in FY26. While the shift towards more standardized products (like relays) may lead to lower margins compared to customized products, overall margins are expected to remain at similar levels, ranging from 10-25% depending on customization and value addition.

    07

    New Plant & Capacity Expansion

    PML is progressing with its long-term plan to consolidate existing operations and move to a new plant. The company has acquired 8 acres of land, with an additional 2 acres pending for acquisition by September. Following this, development of the land and building will commence, with operations expected to begin in the new plant within 2-3 years. In the interim, any necessary expansions are being managed through additional leased premises.

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