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Thomson Reuters (TRI) Q2 FY25 earnings call: guidance and Q&A

Earnings call· Jun 2025 (Q2 FY25)· Communication Services· Aug 6, 2025

Source: earnings call transcript

Executive summary

Thomson Reuters Q2 FY25 — Strong Organic Growth and AI Innovation

Thomson Reuters delivered a strong Q2 FY25, marked by robust organic revenue growth across its core segments and significant advancements in agentic AI offerings for legal and tax professionals. The company reaffirmed its full-year guidance, demonstrating confidence in its product roadmap and capital allocation strategy, while leveraging its deep domain expertise to drive innovation.

Highlights

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  • Total company organic revenues rose 7%, with Big 3 segments growing 9%.

  • Adjusted EBITDA increased 5% to $678 million, reflecting a 70 basis point margin increase to 37.8%.

  • Legal organic revenue grew 8% for the second consecutive quarter, driven by Westlaw and CoCounsel.

  • Tax & Accounting organic revenues grew 11%, driven by Latin American and U.S. businesses.

  • Net leverage of only 0.5x at quarter end, with an estimated $10 billion of capital capacity through 2027.

Concerns

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  • Global Print organic revenues declined 7% year-on-year.

  • Some Q2 expense timing benefits will reverse in H2, impacting Q3 EBITDA margin to be approximately 36%.

Guidance & targets

CategoryTargetConfidence
Full-year 2025 organic revenue growth
7% to 7.5%
high materiality
High
Full-year 2025 Big 3 segments organic revenue growth
approximately 9%
high materiality
High
Full-year 2025 adjusted EBITDA margin
approximately 39%
high materiality
High
Full-year 2025 free cash flow
approximately $1.9 billion
high materiality
High
Full-year 2025 depreciation and amortization of computer software
$825 million to $835 million
medium materiality
High
Full-year 2025 internally developed software D&A
$625 million to $635 million
medium materiality
High
Full-year 2025 net interest expense
approximately $130 million
medium materiality
High
Q3 2025 organic revenue growth
approximately 7%
medium materiality
High
Q3 2025 adjusted EBITDA margin
approximately 36%
medium materiality
High
2026 Legal Professionals organic revenue growth
8% to 9%
high materiality
High
2026 Corporates organic revenue growth
9% to 11%
high materiality
High
2026 Tax & Accounting professionals organic revenue growth
11% to 13%
high materiality
High
2026 adjusted EBITDA margin expansion
at least 50 basis points
high materiality
High
2026 free cash flow
$2 billion to $2.1 billion
high materiality
High
2026 capital intensity
approximately 8%
medium materiality
High
Capital capacity
$10 billion
high materiality
High

Segment performance

SegmentRevenueYoYQoQMargin
Total Company
Organic revenue growth for the second quarter.
—7%—37.8%
Big 3 segments
Organic revenue growth, stable with Q1. Adjusted EBITDA was $621 million, up 7% from prior year.
—9%—42.3%
Legal Professionals
Organic revenue growth for the second consecutive quarter, driven by Westlaw, CoCounsel, CoCounsel Drafting, CLEAR, and international businesses.
Government growth: 7%
—8%——
Corporates
Organic revenue growth driven by Direct and Indirect Tax, Practical Law, Pagero, and international businesses.
Recurring revenue growth: 9%Transactional revenue growth: 4%
—9%——
Tax & Accounting
Strong organic growth driven by Latin America business, SafeSend, UltraTax, and SurePrep.
Recurring revenue growth: 9%Transactional revenue growth: 14%
—11%——
Reuters News
Organic revenue growth driven by Professional and Agency businesses and news agreement with LSEG. Adjusted EBITDA was $45 million.
—5%—20.8%
Global Print
Organic revenue decline met expectations. Adjusted EBITDA was $41 million.
—-7%—36%

TRI operating KPIs by quarter

TRI operating KPIs stated on its earnings calls, by fiscal quarter
KPIThis call Jun 2025 Q2 FY25 Sep 2025 Q3 FY25Change vs prior quarter
GenAI-enabled ACV penetration
22% At the end of Q2, the percent of our annualized contract value, or ACV, from products that are GenAI-enabled was 22%, up from 20% last quarter. Source: earnings call transcript
24% At the end of Q3, the percent of our annualized contract value or ACV from products that are Gen AI-enabled was 24%, up from 22% last quarter. Source: earnings call transcript
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Operating figures the company stated on at least two of the calls shown, checked against each call's transcript. Click a figure to read the sentence. A dash means it was not stated that quarter.

Product announcements

ProductTypeDetails
CoCounsel for tax, audit and accountinglaunch
Ready to Reviewlaunch
Ready to Adviselaunch
CoCounsel Legallaunch
Deep Researchlaunch
Westlaw Advantagelaunch
Agentic-guided workflows for CoCounsellaunch

Deals & partnerships

Materia Acquisition in 2024 to power CoCounsel for tax, audit and accounting.

The acquisition of Materia in 2024 provided the underlying technology for the CoCounsel for tax, audit and accounting platform.

Pagero Acquisition contributing to growth in the Corporates segment.

The Pagero acquisition is noted as a key contributor to organic revenue growth in the Corporates segment, and the company is seeing signs of outgrowing competition on its back.

Risks & headwinds

Global Print revenue decline Q2 FY25

7% organic decline YoY

Q3 EBITDA margin pressure Q3 FY25

Q3 adjusted EBITDA margin expected to be approximately 36%

Mitigation:Management remains confident in full-year guidance, indicating these are temporary factors.

Talent shortage in Tax & Accounting and Audit professions Ongoing

Acute talent shortage, with insufficient supply of young talent becoming CPAs.

Mitigation:Technology, particularly AI, plays a critical role in addressing this fundamental issue by increasing efficiency and automating tasks.

What to watch in Q3 FY25

Ready to Review commercial launch

Q4
Current In beta
Target Commercial launch

Why it matters

Indicates progress in automating complex tax preparation tasks, potentially driving efficiency and revenue in the Tax & Accounting segment.

Ready to Advise Is in the market today, and Ready to Review is currently in beta with the commercial launch scheduled for the fourth quarter.

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Q&A highlights

What percentage of workflow is currently automated by agentic AI, and how does this impact the previously outlined GenAI TAMs?

Automation is still relatively modest overall, varying by profession. Tax & Accounting has more automation in core calculations, with new agentic AI automating 'shoulder tasks' like document ingestion and advisory services. Legal, a 350-year-old profession, has less existing automation, offering significant opportunity for agentic AI in first-draft processes. The company is on track for the 20% TAM increase discussed at Investor Day but will update externally in 2026.

“The Legal profession is different. I think legal profession is by some counts 350 years old in its current form. And other than the discovery and word processing and a number of other tools that have been implemented over time, the process is still fairly similar and has been for centuries. And so we think that generative AI and agentic AI hold promise to fundamentally automate large portions of the first draft process in preparation...”

asked by Drew McReynolds · answered by Stephen Hasker

2 min read 6 chapters

Detailed narrative

Agentic AI Innovation

Thomson Reuters is heavily investing in agentic AI, which uses advanced reasoning models, tool access, and adaptability to complete complex multistep assignments. This approach leverages the company's proprietary content, workflow tools, and extensive domain expertise from over 2,500 subject matter experts, positioning it uniquely to deliver professional-grade AI solutions.

Initial customer feedback on these new offerings is encouraging, with further updates expected throughout 2025 and beyond.

New Product Launches in Tax & Accounting

The company launched CoCounsel for tax, audit, and accounting in June, an agentic AI platform automating tasks like client file review and compliance checks, leveraging authoritative Checkpoint content. This was followed by Ready to Review, an agentic AI-powered tax preparation solution currently in beta with a commercial launch scheduled for Q4, and Ready to Advise, an agentic AI-powered tax planning advisory solution already in market.

These solutions aim to eliminate manual work, increase efficiency, and enable accountants to redirect time to higher-value, revenue-generating advisory work.

New Product Launches in Legal

Thomson Reuters introduced CoCounsel Legal, a next-generation AI offering that unifies Westlaw, Practical Law, CoCounsel Core, and CoCounsel Drafting into a single solution. Key innovations include Deep Research, the legal industry's first professional-grade agentic AI research capability built to mimic experienced legal researchers, and agentic-guided workflows.

Over 15 of these guided workflows, expanding litigation and transactional law, are planned for launch in Q3, streamlining complex tasks like merger control filing requirements.

Capital Allocation Strategy

The company maintains a strong balance sheet with 0.5x net leverage and an estimated $10 billion in capital capacity through 2027. Strategic M&A, particularly in areas like Risk, Fraud & Compliance, Indirect Tax, and international expansion, remains the top priority for capital deployment.

Thomson Reuters also plans to continue its dividend growth, having achieved 4 consecutive years of 10% increases, and may consider share buybacks of $400 million to $500 million in FY25 to meet its commitment of returning 75% of free cash flow to shareholders.

Customer Adoption of AI

Management notes broad interest in AI offerings across all customer segments, from large enterprises to sole proprietors, in both Legal and Tax & Accounting. While 20-30% of law firms are aggressively adopting AI for differentiation, the majority are in earlier stages of adoption, driven by the need to provide talent with the best tools.

The Tax & Accounting sector, facing acute talent shortages, shows particularly high interest and potential uptake for AI solutions that address fundamental efficiency challenges.

Margin Drivers and Outlook

Q2 adjusted EBITDA margin benefited from strong operating leverage, favorable revenue mix, and timing of expenses. However, Q3 margins are expected to be lower (approximately 36%) due to normal seasonality in Tax & Accounting, the reversal of Q2 expense timing benefits (including SafeSend integration costs), and a tough comparable at Reuters News due to one-time GenAI revenue in Q3 2024.

Despite these factors, management remains confident in achieving the full-year 39% adjusted EBITDA margin guidance.

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