Greenlam Industries Limited — Q4 FY25 earnings call

Call held 2 Jun 2025

Management summary

Greenlam Industries reported a mixed Q4 and FY25, with consolidated revenue growing 11.4% YoY to INR 2,569 crores for the full year, but profitability was significantly impacted by increased costs from recent expansion initiatives. EBITDA margin for FY25 declined by 210 bps to 10.7%, and net profit fell 50% YoY. The company completed major capex projects, including new laminate, plywood, and chipboard plants, and expects FY26 to be a year of execution focused on ramping up utilization and gradually reducing debt, with particle board breakeven anticipated in FY27.

Highlights

  • FY25 Consolidated Revenue: INR 2,569 crores, up 11.4% YoY.

  • Q4 FY25 Consolidated Revenue: INR 682 crores, up 9.2% YoY.

  • FY25 Consolidated EBITDA Margin: 10.7%, down 210 bps YoY.

  • Q4 FY25 Consolidated EBITDA Margin: 9.4%, down 400 bps YoY.

  • FY25 Consolidated Net Profit: INR 68.3 crores, down 50% YoY.

  • Q4 FY25 Consolidated Net Profit: INR 1.5 crores, down 96.3% YoY.

  • Laminates FY25 Revenue: INR 2,226 crores, up 9.2% YoY, with EBITDA margin at 13.9%.

  • Plywood FY25 Revenue: INR 123 crores, grew 112% YoY.

  • Chipboard plant commissioned in Jan 2025, generated INR 5.1 crores revenue in Q4 FY25.

  • Net debt as of March 31, 2025, stood at INR 989 crores.

Concerns

  • Profitability impact from increased costs due to expansion initiatives

Key financials

2 periods

Q4 FY25

  • Revenue
    ₹682 Cr
    YoY +9.2% QoQ +13.2%
  • Gross Margin
    50.7%
    YoY -2.3% QoQ -4.3%
  • EBITDA Margin
    9.4%
    YoY -4% QoQ -1.2%
  • Net Profit
    ₹1.5 Cr
    YoY -96.3%

FY25

  • Revenue
    ₹2,569 Cr
    YoY +11.4%
  • Gross Margin
    52.3%
    YoY -0.5%
  • EBITDA Margin
    10.7%
    YoY -2.1%
  • Net Profit
    ₹68.3 Cr
    YoY -50%

What they filed

Q1 FY27: revenue up 18.2%, net profit up 231.3% against the same quarter last year.

₹ Cr · quarterly
Line itemQ2 FY25Q3 FY25Q4 FY25Q1 FY26Q2 FY26Q3 FY26Q4 FY26Q1 FY27
Revenue681 602 682 674 808 +19%706 +17%858 +26%797 +18%
EBITDA81 64 64 44 104 +28%68 +6%108 +69%80 +82%
Net profit34 13 1 -16 32 −6%-1 −108%41 +4000%21 +231%
How to read this

₹ crore, as filed. The percentage beside a figure is the change against the same quarter a year earlier — never the quarter before, which would make every seasonal business look like it collapses and booms each year.

Segment breakdown

Share of Q4 FY25 Revenue
₹681 Cr Total
  • Laminates ₹575 Cr 84.4%
  • Plywood and Allied ₹38.6 Cr 5.7%
  • Decorative Veneer ₹35.2 Cr 5.2%
  • Engineered Doors ₹14.2 Cr 2.1%
  • Engineered Wood Flooring ₹12.9 Cr 1.9%
  • Chipboard and Allied ₹5.1 Cr 0.7%

Guidance & targets

Revenue

  • Revenue Potential from Existing Investments Revenue · next 3-4 years · Medium confidence INR 4,500 crores
    With the investments we've already made, we can generate a revenue of about INR4,500 crores over the next 3 years. So we don't need more capacities to bring up these revenues, which we hope we can achieve over the next 3 to 4 years.

    — Saurabh Mittal, Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer

Capacity

  • Chipboard Plant Utilization Capacity · FY26 · Medium confidence 30-40%
    We're hoping to achieve about 30% to 40% utilization in FY '26.

    — Saurabh Mittal, Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer

Profitability

  • Chipboard Breakeven Profitability · FY27 · Medium confidence Next year (FY27)

    Previously This year (FY26)Next year (FY27)

    But seeing the current scenario and the large capacity which we have created, we presume this year, the breakeven may not happen in the particle board. And in next year, the particle board breakeven should happen.

    — Ashok Sharma, Chief Financial Officer

  • Plywood Breakeven Profitability · full year FY26 · Medium confidence Very close to breakeven
    So ply, my sense is to for the full year basis, we probably will be very close to breakeven.

    — Ashok Sharma, Chief Financial Officer

Margin

  • Laminates EBITDA Margin Margin · FY26 · Medium confidence 14-15%
    So laminate, the last year also, we have achieved around 13.9%, 14% of the margin in terms of that. We believe that it should be in the range of close to around 14%, 15%.

    — Ashok Sharma, Chief Financial Officer

Debt

  • Net Debt Debt · FY26 · Medium confidence around INR 950 crores
    So this year, we are expecting in the range of around INR950-odd crores the debt. However, from next year onwards, it should keep coming down.

    — Ashok Sharma, Chief Financial Officer

  • Debt Reduction Debt · from FY27 onwards · High confidence gradually reduce
    However, from next year onwards, it should keep coming down.

    — Ashok Sharma, Chief Financial Officer

Market Strategy

  • Plywood Segment Focus Market Strategy · next 2-3 years · High confidence Not moving to mass segment
    So I think currently, as I see things now, I'm not sure that we'll be even going to a mass segment, at least for the next 2-odd years or 2, 3 years.

    — Saurabh Mittal, Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer

Risks & concerns

  • Profitability impact from increased costs due to expansion initiatives

    high

    Profitability was impacted in FY '25 and Q4 FY '25, largely on account of increased costs, primarily stemming from expansion.

    Management acknowledged

  • Slower-than-expected ramp-up and delayed breakeven for new particle board plant

    medium

    Breakeven for particle board may not happen in FY26, now expected in FY27, due to current scenario and large capacity.

    Management acknowledged

  • Increased competition in chipboard market from new capacities

    medium

    If one more capacity comes up, there would be more competition in the market.

    Analyst acknowledged

  • Demand challenges in laminates and flooring businesses

    medium

    Laminates performed well despite demand challenges; H2 was slow for the flooring business.

    Management acknowledged

Areas of evasion (2)

  • Specific production cost differentials between India, USA, and Europe for laminates
  • Exact number of distributors/dealers and specific targets for the next 2 years

Q&A highlights

2 direct
Delay in Particle Board Breakeven and Margin Outlook Direct
But seeing the current scenario and the large capacity which we have created, we presume this year, the breakeven may not happen in the particle board. And in next year, the particle board breakeven should happen.

Reveals a delay in achieving breakeven for a significant new investment, impacting profitability expectations for the near term.

Asked by Keshav Lahoti (HDFC Securities)

Laminates Gross Margin Dip in Q4 Partial
it is a mix of price in some segments. And if you can if you see in this quarter, there is a lot of I will say the stock has been stock a lot of -- our sales was more than the production. So a lot of material was consumed from the stock. So that is also one of the reasons in terms of which the gross margin was slightly lower.

Explains the significant margin contraction in the core laminates segment, attributing it to mix and inventory consumption rather than solely cost increases, which could imply pricing pressure.

Asked by Keshav Lahoti (HDFC Securities)

Debt Reduction Timeline Direct
So debt reduction in this year may not be very -- may not be to a large extent, but we're hopeful that in next year -- from next year onwards, when the most of the capex is being done, so the entire cash will be used to bring down the debt. So this year, we are expecting in the range of around INR950-odd crores the debt.

Provides clarity on the debt trajectory, indicating that significant reduction will only begin from FY27, after the remaining capex for FY26 is completed.

Asked by Udit Gajiwala (YES Securities)

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Detailed narrative

Q4 & FY25 Consolidated Performance Overview

Greenlam Industries reported a consolidated net revenue of INR 2,569 crores for FY25, marking an 11.4% year-on-year growth, though this was below the projected 18-20% due to a slowdown in H2. Q4 FY25 revenue stood at INR 682 crores, growing 9.2% YoY. Profitability was significantly impacted by increased costs from recent expansion initiatives, leading to a 400 basis point decline in Q4 EBITDA margin to 9.4% and a 210 basis point decline for FY25 to 10.7%. Consequently, net profit for FY25 fell 50% to INR 68.3 crores, with Q4 net profit plummeting to INR 1.5 crores from INR 40.8 crores in the prior year.

Strategic Expansion and Capex Impact

The company commissioned three new plants—a plywood factory in Tamil Nadu, and a laminate and chipboard plant in Andhra Pradesh—over the last two fiscal years, capitalizing approximately INR 1,300 crores. These investments have led to increased depreciation and interest costs, as well as higher salaries and marketing expenses for new teams. Management views these as strategic long-term investments, projecting that existing capacities can generate INR 4,500 crores in revenue over the next 3-4 years, with a focus on ramping up utilization across these units.

Segmental Performance Highlights

The Laminates segment, the core business, grew 9.2% in FY25 to INR 2,226 crores, with domestic revenue up 4% and international revenue up 14.2%. Its EBITDA margin for FY25 was 13.9%. The Plywood business saw robust growth, doubling revenues by 112% to INR 123 crores in FY25. The newly commissioned Chipboard plant, operational since January 2025, contributed INR 5.1 crores in Q4 FY25, operating at an annualized 24% capacity utilization. Engineered Doors also performed well, growing 44% in FY25 to INR 46.1 crores and becoming EBITDA positive in H2.

Particle Board Ramp-up and Breakeven Outlook

The chipboard plant, a significant new investment, is expected to achieve 30-40% capacity utilization in FY26. However, management indicated that achieving breakeven for the particle board business might not happen in FY26 due to the current market scenario and large capacity, pushing the breakeven target to FY27. Full profitability for this segment is anticipated over a 3-4 year period. The company also confirmed that the BIS (QCO) regulation has been implemented for the particle board business.

Margins, Raw Materials, and Debt Management

Gross margins declined in Q4 FY25 by 230 basis points YoY to 50.7%, partly attributed to product mix and consumption from stock. For laminates, management expects EBITDA margins to remain in the 14-15% range for FY26. Raw material costs, particularly wood, have shown some softening, which might impact Q2 FY26, but overall costs are not expected to rise. Net debt stood at INR 989 crores as of March 31, 2025. While some balancing capex is still planned for FY26, significant debt reduction is expected to commence from FY27 onwards as cash flows improve and major capex concludes.

Distribution and Market Strategy

Greenlam continues to strengthen its distribution network, increasing reach across Tier 1, Tier 2, and Tier 3 cities, and offering products across various price points. The company has publicly stated a network of 30,000 dealers, retailers, and distributors. For plywood, the focus remains on the premium category, with no immediate plans to move into the mid or mass segments for the next 2-3 years, as there is ample room for growth in the current premium space by expanding into more states and building demand.

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