Grasim Inds — Q4 FY25 earnings call

Call held 23 May 2025

Management summary

Grasim Industries reported strong Q4 FY25 standalone revenue growth of 32% driven by the rapid scaling of its new paints and B2B e-commerce businesses, alongside solid performance from core segments. The paints business, Birla Opus, quickly became India's No.3 decorative brand, while Birla Pivot achieved a ₹5,000 crore ARR. However, profitability in cellulosic fibres was impacted by raw material costs, and caustic sales faced headwinds from plant shutdowns and negative chlorine realizations. The company remains confident in its long-term growth trajectory, particularly in consumer-oriented businesses.

Highlights

  • Grasim standalone revenue reached ₹8,926 crore in Q4 FY25, an impressive 32% Y-o-Y growth, reflecting initial success of new businesses and sustained strength of existing businesses.

  • Birla Opus, the paints business, achieved India's No.3 decorative paints brand status within 6 months of pan-India operations, driven by rapid capacity ramp-up (1,096 MLPA by March 2025) and wide distribution across 6,600 towns.

  • Birla Pivot, the B2B e-commerce business, crossed an annual run rate (ARR) of ₹5,000 crores based on exit Q4 FY25, achieving 3.3x revenue growth over FY24, with a catalogue of over 40,000 SKUs.

  • Cellulosic Fibre business achieved its highest-ever annual revenue of ₹15,987 crores, growing 6% Y-o-Y, primarily led by 4% volume growth.

  • The company declared a final dividend of ₹10 per share, reinforcing its legacy of consistent shareholder value creation with 62 consecutive years of uninterrupted dividend payments.

Concerns

  • Cellulosic Fibre profitability was 12% lower Y-o-Y due to higher key raw material prices absorbed by the company and moderation in Q4/Q1 due to China capacity utilization and softening pulp prices.

  • Caustic sales volumes were 3% lower Y-o-Y in Q4 due to plant shutdowns at Karwar and BB Puram, contributing to moderated ECU growth due to higher negative chlorine realizations.

  • The decorative paints market (excluding Birla Opus) was negative, and with Birla Opus, it was low single-digit positive, with FY26 also expected to see low single-digit growth, indicating a challenging market environment.

Key financials

  1. Standalone Revenue ₹8,926 Cr +32%YoY
  2. Cellulosic Fibre Annual Revenue ₹15,987 Cr +6%YoY
  3. Cellulosic Fibre Annual Profitability Growth -12%
  4. Caustic Sales Volume Growth Q4 -3%
  5. Financial Services AUM Growth 17%
  6. Financial Services Lending Portfolio Growth 27%

What they filed

Q1 FY27: revenue up 21.4%, net profit up 38.8% against the same quarter last year.

₹ Cr · quarterly
Line itemQ2 FY25Q3 FY25Q4 FY25Q1 FY26Q2 FY26Q3 FY26Q4 FY26Q1 FY27
Revenue34,223 35,378 44,267 40,118 39,900 +17%44,312 +25%51,101 +15%48,716 +21%
EBITDA6,026 6,804 8,750 8,822 7,671 +27%8,870 +30%10,874 +24%11,152 +26%
Net profit983 1,734 2,973 2,771 1,498 +52%2,233 +29%3,684 +24%3,846 +39%
How to read this

₹ crore, as filed. The percentage beside a figure is the change against the same quarter a year earlier — never the quarter before, which would make every seasonal business look like it collapses and booms each year.

Segment breakdown

  • Cellulosic Fibres Business
    ₹15,987 Cr Annual Revenue6% Annual Revenue Growth-12% Annual Profitability Growth4% Volume Growth
  • Chemicals Business (Combined with Cellulosic Fibres)
    ₹20,000 Cr Top Line (Past 3 Years)₹2,500 Cr EBITDA (Past 3 Years)
  • Paints Business (Birla Opus)
    65% Revenue Contribution from Luxury & Premium Products
  • B2B E-commerce (Birla Pivot)
    ₹5,000 Cr Annual Run Rate (ARR) Exit Q4 FY253.3× Revenue Growth over FY24
  • Financial Services (Aditya Birla Capital)
    ₹5.00L Cr AUM17% AUM Growth₹1.50L Cr Lending Portfolio27% Lending Portfolio Growth

Capital allocation

high confidence
  • Capex ₹10,000 Cr
    • Decorative paints business investment ₹10,000 Cr
    • Lyocell Fibre project (55,000 tonnes per annum capacity)
    • Debottlenecking of pulp capacity in Harihar
    • Debottlenecking projects in Vilayat and Nagda plants
    • ECH and CPVC plants at Vilayat
    Grasim board in 2021 made a long-term commitment to decorative paints business with a vision to redefine the industry with consumer-centric programs and practices. They empowered us with ₹10,000 crore investment to prepare for tomorrow with a single-minded purpose to revolutionize the decorative paints business and pass on the fruits of competition to the consumers.
  • Dividend ₹10/share (final)
    Happy to announce that the Board has approved a final dividend of 10 per share, reinforcing our legacy of consistent shareholder value creation.
  • M&A Wonder WallCare Pvt Ltd Acquisition · Closed

    Aggressively expanding Birla White Putty manufacturing capacity

    With this acquisition, Birla White Putty, and VAP capacity at the 4 plants in FY '26 will rise to 23 lakh metric tons besides 16 lakh metric tons of, for white cement clinker manufacturing.

    Separately, Birla White is aggressively expanding its putty manufacturing capacity with a recent announcement of acquisition by UltraTech of Wonder WallCare Pvt Ltd.

Guidance & targets

Market Share

  • Birla Opus Decorative Paints Market Share Market Share · next year · Medium confidence double-digit player

    From high single digit today

    No. So, like we said, we have achieved our first benchmark of high single digit. And for next year, the ambition is to be a double-digit player, we'd love to hit that. That's all we can add.

    — Rakshit Hargave

Capacity

  • Birla Opus Overall Paint Capacity Capacity · H1 FY'26 · High confidence 1,332 MLPA

    From 1,096 MLPA today

    Our final plant at Kharagpur is scheduled to be commercially launched in H1 FY '26, taking our overall capacity to 1,332 MLPA.

    — Himanshu Kapania

  • Lyocell Fibre Project Commissioning Capacity · mid-'27 · High confidence mid-'27
    The new plant is expected to be commissioned by mid-'27.

    — Pavan Jain

  • ECH and CPVC Plants Commissioning Capacity · Q2 FY26 · High confidence Q2 FY26
    The projects of ECH and CPVC plants at Vilayat are expected to be commissioned around Q2 FY26.

    — Pavan Jain

Profitability

  • Birla Opus EBITDA Breakeven Profitability · 3-year operation · Medium confidence ₹10,000 crores
    As far as profitability is concerned, we said our ambition is to be ₹10,000 crores full scale 3-year operation and be EBITDA breakeven.

    — Rakshit Hargave

  • Birla Pivot EBITDA Breakeven Profitability · Medium confidence ₹8,500 crores
    And what we had earlier also stated is that at that scale is when we will probably break even at an EBITDA level.

    — Sandeep Komaravelly

Revenue

  • Birla Pivot Annual Run Rate Revenue · Medium confidence ₹8,500 crores ($1 billion)
    And as you rightly hinted, our earlier stated goal of hitting ₹8,500 crores, which is $1 billion, we'll probably get there faster if we continue this growth rate.

    — Sandeep Komaravelly

Integration

  • Overall Integration (Chemicals) Integration · after completion of existing projects · High confidence 65-70%
    So, we basically look at overall integration which is after completion of our existing projects going to go from 65% to 70%.

    — Jayant Dhobley

Growth

  • Chemicals Business Growth Growth · next year · Medium confidence equal to or possibly above-market growth
    So, I think you can expect equal to or possibly above-market growth for next year.

    — Jayant Dhobley

EBITDA/tonne

  • UltraTech Cement EBITDA per tonne saving EBITDA/tonne · by 2027 · High confidence ₹250-300
    Cement business under UltraTech has been growing with total capacity expected to reach 215 million tonnes with estimated EBITDA per tonne saving of about ₹250 to 300 by 2027.

    — Pavan Jain

What to watch in Q1 FY26

Birla Opus Paint Capacity Commissioning

H1 FY26
Current 5 out of 6 plants commercialized, 1,096 MLPA capacity
Target Kharagpur plant commercial launch, overall capacity 1,332 MLPA

Why it matters

Kharagpur plant commissioning is crucial for achieving the targeted 1,332 MLPA capacity and 24% market share, impacting logistics costs and market presence.

Our final plant at Kharagpur is scheduled to be commercially launched in H1 FY '26, taking our overall capacity to 1,332 MLPA.

Risks & concerns

  • Cellulosic Fibre Profitability Compression

    medium

    Profitability was 12% lower Y-o-Y due to higher raw material prices, China capacity utilization, and softening pulp prices in Q4/Q1.

    Management acknowledged

  • Caustic Sales Volume Decline & Negative Chlorine Realizations

    medium

    Caustic sales volumes were down 3% Y-o-Y in Q4 due to plant shutdowns, and higher negative chlorine realizations moderated ECU growth.

    Management acknowledged

  • Slowdown in Decorative Paints Market

    medium

    The market (excluding Birla Opus) was negative, and with Birla Opus, it was low single-digit positive, with FY26 also expected to see low single-digit growth.

    Management acknowledged

  • Global Tariff Uncertainties Impacting Chemicals and VSF

    medium

    The global tariff situation creates uncertainty in international trade flows, impacting epoxy and VSF businesses, leading to a 'wait and watch' approach for FY26 profit numbers.

    Management acknowledged

Q&A highlights

4 direct
Birla Opus Market Share and Profitability Targets Direct
So, Percy, you know the 10% market share, the double-digit market share that we have shared is the consolidation between Birla Opus and the Putty business of Birla White. All the paint companies also have putty, but Opus by itself doesn't have. So that is what we have given. Now like I said, we are not giving a guidance or a target for next year. But Birla Opus by itself should be a double-digit share player is what our aspiration is. And whenever you add putty on to it, it will obviously be incremental.

Clarifies the company's internal market share calculation (including putty) and sets an aspirational target for Birla Opus alone, providing insight into competitive positioning.

Asked by Percy Panthaki

Cellulosic Business Volumes and Capex Plans Partial
In terms of our volumes, the demand has been quite stable, except that in quarter 4, we have seen some minor drop in the demand in the Indian market. So, we had to increase our exports. So, we have not lost any capacity. It's more about diverting some of this capacity to export market. Plus, we also had increased certain specialty kind of product because of which there is a certain change in the productivity levels, changeovers, etc. So, there is no significant change in terms of our capacity utilization.

Explains the reasons for lower Q4 cellulosic volumes (domestic demand dip, increased exports, specialty product mix) and confirms ongoing major capex projects despite FY25 spend being lower than initially targeted.

Asked by Rahul Gupta

Chlorine Pricing Dynamics and Internal Consumption Direct
So, we basically look at overall integration which is after completion of our existing projects going to go from 65% to 70%. And we are reasonably happy with that level of integration. And I will also tell you why we are reasonably happy with that level of integration. Because the newer capacities which are coming in related to PVC will be fully chlorine integrated. And chlorine demand typically grows 3% or so faster than caustic demand, right? So over time, you will see the result of the PVC capacity additions will mean that the net chlorine available to the Indian market is reduced. And to that extent, the negative chlorine will also start becoming less negative, right?

Provides a detailed explanation of how PVC integration and faster chlorine demand growth will structurally improve negative chlorine realizations over time, despite current volatility.

Asked by Nirav

Birla Pivot EBITDA Breakeven Timeline Direct
And what we had earlier also stated is that at that scale is when we will probably break even at an EBITDA level. We're still a new business; we started around 2 years back. And we probably are one of the fastest growing B2B e-commerce platform to have hit this scale in 2 years, but we still remain in the investment phase. We are still building our overall teams, technology capability. A lot of what we build is built ground up, given the complexity that is involved in how B2B e-commerce platform needs to operate. So, we continue to invest in that, continue to build capability around logistics infrastructure, around how we build seamless fulfilment experience. So those investments will continue even into the next year.

Clarifies that while Birla Pivot is growing rapidly and aims for EBITDA breakeven at ₹8,500 crores ARR, it remains in an investment phase with continued spending into the next year.

Asked by Navin Sahadeo

Paints Market Growth Outlook and Discounting Direct
Sheela, if you look at it from a year which has gone by point of view, if you exclude Birla Opus, then the market has actually been negative. So, the market has actually been negative. And if you add Birla Opus, then the market has been positive in low single-digit numbers. What we see today is that the market is still slow. And while it will be difficult to predict how FY '26 would go, but it could be that FY '26 remains a low single-digit growth here.

Provides a realistic outlook for the paint market, indicating low single-digit growth for FY26, and attributes past slowdown to industry's focus on downgrading products rather than genuine volume issues.

Asked by Sheela Rathi

VSF and Chemicals Business Growth Outlook Partial
So, on the VSF profitability, as Mr. Vadiraj has already shared in the last question that there is kind of uncertainty because of these tariff issues globally, I mean, different countries playing out that tariff issues. So, there is a demand slowdown in the China market. So, to that extent, yes, there will be a weakness. We don't give the guidance for FY '26 kind of profit numbers. We have given you the macro kind of situation. But as the tariff uncertainties situation has a better clarity about, I mean, how the sale is going to pan out, I think we will have to, till then, we will have to wait and watch kind of situation.

Highlights the ongoing uncertainty in VSF profitability due to global tariff issues and China slowdown, leading to a 'wait and watch' stance for FY26 profit guidance.

Asked by Prateek Kumar

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Detailed narrative

Paints Business (Birla Opus) Rapid Scale-Up and Market Position

Grasim's new paints business, Birla Opus, has rapidly scaled up, achieving India's No.3 decorative paints brand status within six months of pan-India operations, as per internal estimates. By March 2025, five out of six plants were commercialized, adding 1,096 MLPA capacity, representing 21% of the organized decorative paints market. The final plant at Kharagpur is scheduled for H1 FY26, which will bring the total capacity to 1,332 MLPA, accounting for 24% of the sector's capacity. The company's luxury and premium products already contribute over 65% to its revenue, and it has established a wide distribution network across 6,600 towns with 137 depots.

B2B E-commerce (Birla Pivot) Strong Growth and Investment Phase

Birla Pivot, Grasim's B2B e-commerce platform, has demonstrated significant growth, crossing an annual run rate (ARR) of ₹5,000 crores based on exit Q4 FY25, marking a 3.3x revenue growth over FY24. The platform hosts over 40,000 SKUs across 35 product categories and serves a diverse customer base including EPC companies, contractors, and retailers across 375 cities. Management anticipates reaching its earlier stated goal of ₹8,500 crores ($1 billion) faster than expected, at which point it aims to achieve EBITDA breakeven, though it remains in an investment phase with continued spending on teams, technology, and logistics infrastructure into the next year.

Cellulosic Fibres Business Performance and Capex

The Cellulosic Fibres business achieved its highest-ever annual revenue of ₹15,987 crores, representing a 6% Y-o-Y growth, primarily driven by a 4% increase in volumes. However, profitability was 12% lower Y-o-Y due to higher raw material prices and moderation in Q4/Q1 volumes attributed to a minor drop in Indian market demand and increased exports. The company has commenced work on its 55,000 tonnes per annum Lyocell Fibre project at Harihar, expected to be commissioned by mid-2027, and is also undertaking debottlenecking projects at its pulp capacity in Harihar, Vilayat, and Nagda plants.

Chemicals Business Dynamics and Integration

The Chemicals business, combined with Cellulosic Fibres, has consistently delivered a top line of over ₹20,000 crores and EBITDA of over ₹2,500 crores over the past three years. In Q4 FY25, caustic sales volumes were 3% lower Y-o-Y due to plant shutdowns, and negative chlorine realizations moderated ECU growth. However, the company expects to enter FY26 with full available capacity and anticipates improved performance from its chlorine derivatives business. The ECH and CPVC plants at Vilayat are slated for commissioning in Q2 FY26, which will contribute to an overall integration level of 65-70% post-project completion, with newer PVC-related capacities being fully chlorine integrated.

Outlook on Paints Market Growth and Pricing Strategy

Management noted that the decorative paints market (excluding Birla Opus) was negative, and even with Birla Opus, it showed low single-digit positive growth. FY26 is also expected to see low single-digit growth. Despite this, Grasim maintains its pricing strategy, offering competitive prices to consumers comparable to market leaders, and provides unique value propositions like 10% free product on larger emulsion packs. The company believes that the market slowdown was partly due to the industry's focus on downgrading products, and expects a return to natural double-digit growth with price stabilization and a shift towards higher-quality products.

Leadership Transition and Shareholder Returns

Grasim Industries announced a leadership transition with Mr. Pavan Jain, the Chief Financial Officer, superannuating on August 15, 2025, and Mr. Hemant Kadel taking over as the new CFO from August 16, 2025. The company reinforced its commitment to shareholder value creation by approving a final dividend of ₹10 per share, marking its 62nd consecutive year of uninterrupted dividend payments. This consistent dividend payout highlights the company's financial strength and resilience across various business cycles.

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