Capri Global Capital Limited — Q3 FY24 earnings call

Call held 31 Jan 2024

What they filed

Q1 FY27: revenue up 61.0%, net profit up 109.3% against the same quarter last year.

₹ Cr · quarterly
Line itemQ2 FY25Q3 FY25Q4 FY25Q1 FY26Q2 FY26Q3 FY26Q4 FY26Q1 FY27
Revenue554 601 732 766 867 +56%943 +57%1,071 +46%1,233 +61%
EBITDA463 528 621 647 744 +61%
Net profit86 108 158 150 212 +147%221 +105%243 +54%314 +109%
How to read this

₹ crore, as filed. The percentage beside a figure is the change against the same quarter a year earlier — never the quarter before, which would make every seasonal business look like it collapses and booms each year.

Guidance & targets

growth

  • FY24 AUM growth growth · FY2024 · high confidence 50% YoY to ₹150,000mn
    On the back of a strong business momentum during 9M FY24, the company is targeting to clock FY24 AUM growth in the range of 50% YoY to ₹150,000mn.

    — Rajesh Sharma, Founder & Managing Director

  • Car Loan origination business growth · FY2024 · high confidence ₹100bn
    Our Car Loan distribution business is on course to originate ₹100bn business in FY24. ... The company is confident of crossing its set target of ₹100bn, that is a growth of 75% YoY by FY24.

    — Rajesh Sharma, Founder & Managing Director

  • Gold Loan AUM growth · FY2024 · high confidence ₹30,000mn
    On back of that, we expect to close our Gold Loan AUM this year at about ₹30,000mn

    — Rajesh Sharma, Founder & Managing Director

  • Gold Loan AUM growth · FY2025 · high confidence ₹47bn to ₹50bn
    and next year we should achieve a Gold Loan AUM in the range of about ₹47bn to ₹50bn.

    — Rajesh Sharma, Founder & Managing Director

  • Overall growth growth · FY2025 · high confidence 35%+
    If we talk about overall growth, we should -- we are confident to achieve a growth in the range of about 35%+.

    — Rajesh Sharma, Founder & Managing Director

revenue

  • Gross insurance fee income revenue · FY2025-FY2027 · high confidence at least ₹1bn
    We expect to generate a gross insurance fee income of at least ₹1bn between FY25 and FY27.

    — Rajesh Sharma, Founder & Managing Director

  • Insurance cross-sell fee income revenue · next three years · high confidence ₹1bn
    This will help CGCL to strengthen its insurance cross-sell income and deliver about ₹1bn fee income, which will generate ROE about 2% in the span of the next three years.

    — Rajesh Sharma, Founder & Managing Director

  • Car insurance business income revenue · FY2025 · high confidence ₹400mn to ₹500mn
    Insurance side, by putting the people, team, and license now in place, we should be able to generate income of about ₹400mn to ₹500mn again from the car insurance business.

    — Rajesh Sharma, Founder & Managing Director

profitability

  • ROE profitability · FY2027 · high confidence crossing 15%
    This will contribute towards significantly strengthening our ROA structure and support our target of crossing 15% ROE by or before FY27.

    — Rajesh Sharma, Founder & Managing Director

  • Gold Loan business break-even profitability · Q4 FY2024 · high confidence break even
    The reversal and decline in cost-to-income ratio shall continue with the Gold Loan business likely to break even in Q4 FY24.

    — Rajesh Sharma, Founder & Managing Director

  • Gold Loan vertical profit contribution profitability · FY2025 · high confidence ₹400mn to ₹500mn
    Next year, our Gold Loan vertical will start delivering profit. So, this entire ₹1,000mn loss will go away and we should turn into positive where we expect anything between ₹400mn to ₹500mn of profit contribution from the Gold Loan business next year.

    — Rajesh Sharma, Founder & Managing Director

  • Car Loan distribution profit profitability · FY2025 · high confidence ₹500mn
    Even after all the expenses and the fee, commission payment, we should be able to generate about ₹500mn of profit from the Car Loan distribution alone.

    — Rajesh Sharma, Founder & Managing Director

  • ROE 15% achievement profitability · FY2026-FY2027 · high confidence by around -- between FY26 and FY27
    15% ROE, we hope to achieve by around -- between FY26 and FY27.

    — Rajesh Sharma, Founder & Managing Director

  • ROA profitability · FY2025 · high confidence 2.75% to 3%
    Yes. So next year, ROA -- ROA, we should be having in the range of 2.75% to 3%

    — Rajesh Sharma, Founder & Managing Director

  • ROE profitability · FY2025 · high confidence 11.5% to 12%
    and ROE should be in the range of about 11.5% to 12%.

    — Rajesh Sharma, Founder & Managing Director

operational

  • Active client base operational · FY2024 · high confidence 400,000
    With strong momentum in the retail lending business, the company aims to take active client base to 400,000 by the end of FY24 and 800,000 by the end of FY27.

    — Rajesh Sharma, Founder & Managing Director

  • Active client base operational · FY2027 · high confidence 800,000

    — Rajesh Sharma, Founder & Managing Director

  • Cost-to-income ratio (excluding Gold Loan) operational · FY2025 · high confidence in the range of about 45%
    So I think we should have -- excluding Gold Loan, our cost-to-income ratio should come down in the range of about 45%.

    — Rajesh Sharma, Founder & Managing Director

  • Cost-to-income ratio (excluding Gold Loan) operational · long-term · medium confidence in the range of 40%
    I don't want to give you a number, but we are working towards to bring it down in the range of 40%.

    — Rajesh Sharma, Founder & Managing Director

financial

  • Full year credit cost financial · FY2024 · high confidence in the range of 1%
    Our full year credit cost in FY24 will remain in the range of 1%, which has been our long-term average credit cost.

    — Rajesh Sharma, Founder & Managing Director

Risks & concerns

  • Increase in Gross NPA pool, particularly from MSME, CF, and Housing segments, partly due to flow from restructured assets post-moratorium.

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  • Decline in spreads and increase in credit costs for two consecutive quarters.

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  • Increased cost of funds due to RBI's increased risk weightage for NBFCs.

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Detailed narrative

Market Outlook

The management sees continued growth in the affordable housing segment, supported by government and regulatory thrust to make credit easily available for first-time home buyers. The overall lending market is expected to grow, with co-lending partnerships becoming more acceptable and growing between banks and NBFCs, driven by RBI's objective to reduce customer cost of funds.

Business Segments

Gold Loan

AUM grew by 235% YoY to ₹23,936mn, supported by 298 new branches. 313 out of 747 dedicated branches have crossed ₹30mn break-even, with 113 already profitable.

Outlook: Expected to close FY24 AUM at ₹30,000mn. Next year (FY25) AUM expected to be ₹47bn-₹50bn (50-60% growth). Business expected to break even in Q4 FY24 and contribute ₹400mn-₹500mn profit in FY25. No more branch expansion planned, stopping investment losses.

Home Loan

AUM grew by 53% YoY to ₹34,903mn, driven by 48% YoY growth in disbursement to ₹11,455mn for 9M FY24.

Outlook: No slowdown expected in co-lending or disbursals; segment expected to continue growing for next few years. Targeting 50% growth pace next year.

Construction Finance

AUM grew by 35% YoY to ₹22,710mn, driven by 33% YoY growth in disbursement to ₹13,475mn for 9M FY24.

Outlook: Expect to resolve ₹25mn of Q3 FY24 slippages in Q4 FY24 and remaining ₹81mn in next FY. Stressed project of ₹160mn (Q1 FY24 slippage) approved funding from SWAMIH Fund, likely full recovery in FY24.

MSME Loan

AUM grew by 24% YoY to ₹47,676mn. Contribution as a percentage of total AUM has come down to 35.7% from 44.5% a year ago due to growth in other segments.

Outlook: Evaluating launching micro-LAP (secure lending, ticket size < ₹7.5 lakh) utilizing existing branch network. No immediate plans for new MSME geographies, but under consideration for Q1 FY25. Will continue to show decent growth as it's a key contributor with longer loan tenure (15 years) and customer balance tenure (5 years).

Car Loan Distribution

Originated ₹70,728mn in 9M FY24, up 83% YoY. Net fee generated was ₹805mn. Has a dealership network of 1,800 locations and presence from Jammu to Kanyakumari. Number one among non-car dealer segment.

Outlook: Targeting ₹100bn origination for FY24 (75% YoY growth). Planning to build a tech platform and transfer entire business to newly created wholly owned subsidiary, Capri Loans Car Platform Private Limited, to further scale up in FY25. Expects 20% growth next year and about ₹500mn profit from this vertical alone.

Insurance Distribution

Received composite license from IRDAI. Insurance distribution team in place. Newly incorporated, wholly owned subsidiary, Capri Loans Car Platform Private Limited, became operational and began accruing income.

Outlook: Expect to generate gross insurance fee income of at least ₹1bn between FY25 and FY27. Targeting ₹300mn/year insurance policy premium income from Gold Loan branches from April onwards. Expects ₹400mn-₹500mn income from car insurance business next year. Will contribute to strengthening ROA and achieving 15% ROE by FY27. Technology being built in-house for cross-sell.

Competitive Position

The company states it is number one in the non-car dealer segment for Car Loan distribution, indicating a strong position in that niche. Its extensive branch network (920 total, 747 Gold Loan dedicated) and dealership network (1,800 for Car Loans) provide a wide reach. The focus on affordable housing and MSME segments, coupled with co-lending partnerships, helps maintain competitiveness.

Strategic Initiatives

  • Stock split from ₹2 to ₹1 face value (subject to shareholder approval)
  • Bonus issuance in ratio of 1:1 (subject to shareholder approval)
  • Appointment of three independent directors: Mr. L. V. Prabhakar, Mr. Shishir Priyadarshi, Ms. Nupur Mukherjee
  • Capri Loans Car Platform Private Limited (wholly owned subsidiary) became operational and accruing income
  • Received composite insurance license from IRDAI
  • Planning to build tech platform for Car Loan origination business and transfer to subsidiary
  • Planning to build insurance platform
  • Establishing systematic ESG practice internally, approved ESG policies and governing framework, dedicated ESG department
  • Revamp of LOS/LMS, collections technology, process re-engineering, and analytics-driven decision-making
  • Announcing launch of exclusive co-lending platform soon
  • Completing implementation of Oracle FLEXCUBE LMS for MSME business in coming months
  • In-house applications developed to improve log-in to disbursal and rejection, expected to deliver tangible cost savings from FY25
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